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From: Bible Bob <biblebob@saintly.com>
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Subject: Re: 12 Reasons Why Gay People Should Not Be Allowed To Marry
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:59:42 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
>
>Uzytkownik "rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> napisal w wiadomosci
>news:6e14bcdc.0403041400.67b50b99@posting.google.com...
>> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>news:<c26vco$273$0@pita.alt.net>...
>>
>> >
>> > Please see article 16 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
>> >
>> > It talks of men and women of full age marrying:
>> > http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/lang/eng.htm
>> >
>> > It says nothing of homosexual unions and says that the family is the
>> > foundation of society.
>>
>> JERRY
>> It's not talking about that either. Here is the clause itself
>>
>> Article 16
>> Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race,
>> nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a
>> family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during
>> marriage and at its dissolution.
>> Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of
>> the intending spouses.
>> The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is
>> entitled to protection by society and the State.
>>
>> JERRY
>> This does not mean that ONLY men and women may marry. The UN does not
>> presume to make such statements for the member countries. This is a
>> proclamation of what the UN considers basic rights. The discussion
>> point being placed is not about same sex marriage or defining marriage
>> as only between a man and a woman. The purpose of this statement is
>> to point out that both men and women (since in some countries, women
>> can't make a decision like this for themselves) have the right to
>> marry if they are of age.
>
>You're twisting the text to suit yourself.
>
>It's ridiculous to assume that it meant that both men and women have the
>right to decide to marry or not marry.
>
>It is obvious that single sexes cannot found a family, and that is what
>follows in the same breath.
>
>The UN is not about pervert-enabling, sorry and all that.
>
>Uncle Davey
>
>
I fear you are becoming fearful of speaking what's really on your
mind.
BB
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