| Re: Merchant Account |
RoadRunner - West |
| Jason Gastrich, B.A., M.A. (news@jcsm.org) |
2003/10/21 13:09 |
James King wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:55:58 +0200,
> In article <bn3alp$o0c$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>,
> Uncle Davey (noway@jose.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> news:MPG.19ff3b0043d4bfcd9896d2@news.alt.net...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:31:36 +0200,
>>> In article <bn35nm$14s$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>,
>>> Uncle Davey (noway@jose.com) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:08:08 +0200,
>>>>> In article <bn34bl$o5u$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>,
>>>>> Uncle Davey (noway@jose.com) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:36:47 GMT,
>>>>>>> In article <3u4lb.57934$th6.38088@twister.socal.rr.com>,
>>>>>>> Jason Gastrich, B.A., M.A. (news@jcsm.org) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone recommend a good merchant account? Even a company
>>>>>>>> that will process secure, credit card transactions would work.
>>>>>>>> There are hundreds out there, but I need an inexpensive one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right now, I found one that is recommended by someone and
>>>>>>>> charges a one-time fee of $50 and about 6% per transaction; no
>>>>>>>> monthly fees. If I can't find a better deal, I'll probably go
>>>>>>>> with these guys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're just out to make money, really, aren't you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Converting people, so that they spend the rest of their lives
>>>>>>> redirecting their wealth to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> James King
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.anews.co.uk
>>>>>>> The best UK based serious news digest on the internet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason cannot convert anyone, only God can do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone with money to spare gets a blessing from Jason's
>>>>>> ministry, then they might want to share their wealth with him
>>>>>> seeing that he gives a lot of time to the building up of
>>>>>> believers and to the preaching of the Gospel to the lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't ask for money from anyone I helped because I have a
>>>>>> full time job and get paid quite enough for my needs by spending
>>>>>> time that way. If someone regards this as their job, then they
>>>>>> can be paid for it as long as people are moved to pay them. Free
>>>>>> market. Only commies are against that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone of Jason's brains could be no doubt making good money
>>>>>> spending time on wordly pursuits, and I see no reason why he
>>>>>> needs to starve to prove his sincerity about being an evangelist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uncle Davey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They use psychological skills to convert people using their
>>>>> circular, viral logic, and they do it so that they can sit around
>>>>> taking a tax off their converts for as long as they live
>>>>> afterwards.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what they do. It's a career option. You talk about free
>>>>> markets, but free market theory doesn't work when people are
>>>>> capable of being duped by craftier psychologies like these
>>>>> evangelists. That's why we have law to protect people from
>>>>> subliminal advertising, and the same should be done for
>>>>> teleevangelism and other mass evangelism by people doing it as a
>>>>> business. I would tend to be more convinced by someone like
>>>>> yourself who doesn't try to get money off the people you convert.
>>>>>
>>>>> You make it sound like Gastrich is worse off doing what he is now
>>>>> than he could be doing a normal job, but presumably you have no
>>>>> basis in fact for that, it is just a touching piece of solidarity
>>>>> with your co- religionist. I bet he hasn't let you or anybody
>>>>> else here know what he makes a year or showed you what he's got
>>>>> in the bank.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> James King
>>>>>
>>>>> www.anews.co.uk
>>>>> The best UK based serious news digest on the internet
>>>>
>>>> Of course, all of this would come over with a lot more sincerity
>>>> from someone who wasn't at the same time advertising their own web
>>>> service in every post.
>>>>
>>>> Uncle Davey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's a non-religious matter. And it's a free service anyway. I
>>> don't make money from it. You make money from a non-religious
>>> source and so you are not controversial, and neither am I.
>>>
>>> That's why I don't need to be accountable and you don't need to be
>>> accountable. Gastrich runs a "not-for-profit" (ie a "not-for-profit-
>>> only-for-wages") institution, so he should be showing accounts.
>>
>> I don't know what the American standards of accounting for charities
>> are and I doubt you do either, but one thing I will say is this:
>>
>> On that website you will find a lot of resources which you can use
>> for free and you never need to pay for them.
>>
>> If you never pay any Church or Christian full time servant a penny,
>> that's between you and God. Ain't nobody gonna ax you what you did
>> with your money, unless you get married to a nosey woman. I hear
>> there are such in existence, and I don't necessarily recommend them
>> for you.
>>
>> So relax.
>>
>> Don't let worrying about people's finances come between you and the
>> Lord.
>>
>> Uncle Davey
>>
>>
>>
>
> Actually, I didn't think there was any other kind. So it looks like
> you're recommending me to become a homosexual. What kind of Christian
> advice is that?
Hey James,
Since you are here to seek the biblical God, you are welcome here and I'm
glad that you seem to have made some friends. Maybe you'd like to discuss
how some atheists are terrified of Christians making money. Every so often,
I read a rant from an atheist who seemingly thinks that Christians should
live in poverty. What seems to be the problem?
Unfortunately, this fear is somewhat like a disorder or disease. It even
keeps some from coming to Christ. Of course, the Creator God will not
accept this or anything else as an excuse, though. It simply seems odd that
some atheists are so afraid of this.
Do any Christians (or atheists) know of a place where atheists can go to get
psychological counseling for this disorder? Is there an official name for
it?
God bless,
Jason
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