On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:55:58 +0200,
In article <bn3alp$o0c$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>,
Uncle Davey (noway@jose.com) wrote:
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> news:MPG.19ff3b0043d4bfcd9896d2@news.alt.net...
> >
> > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:31:36 +0200,
> > In article <bn35nm$14s$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>,
> > Uncle Davey (noway@jose.com) wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > news:MPG.19ff36e55f6863749896d1@news.alt.net...
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:08:08 +0200,
> > > > In article <bn34bl$o5u$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>,
> > > > Uncle Davey (noway@jose.com) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > news:MPG.19ff2fbd6455e189896d0@news.alt.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:36:47 GMT,
> > > > > > In article <3u4lb.57934$th6.38088@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> > > > > > Jason Gastrich, B.A., M.A. (news@jcsm.org) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can anyone recommend a good merchant account? Even a company
> that
> > > will
> > > > > > > process secure, credit card transactions would work. There are
> > > hundreds
> > > > > out
> > > > > > > there, but I need an inexpensive one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Right now, I found one that is recommended by someone and
> charges a
> > > > > one-time
> > > > > > > fee of $50 and about 6% per transaction; no monthly fees. If I
> > > can't
> > > > > find a
> > > > > > > better deal, I'll probably go with these guys.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're just out to make money, really, aren't you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Converting people, so that they spend the rest of their lives
> > > > > > redirecting their wealth to you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > James King
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www.anews.co.uk
> > > > > > The best UK based serious news digest on the internet
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason cannot convert anyone, only God can do that.
> > > > >
> > > > > If someone with money to spare gets a blessing from Jason's
> ministry,
> > > then
> > > > > they might want to share their wealth with him seeing that he gives
> a
> > > lot of
> > > > > time to the building up of believers and to the preaching of the
> Gospel
> > > to
> > > > > the lost.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wouldn't ask for money from anyone I helped because I have a full
> time
> > > job
> > > > > and get paid quite enough for my needs by spending time that way. If
> > > someone
> > > > > regards this as their job, then they can be paid for it as long as
> > > people
> > > > > are moved to pay them. Free market. Only commies are against that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone of Jason's brains could be no doubt making good money
> spending
> > > time
> > > > > on wordly pursuits, and I see no reason why he needs to starve to
> prove
> > > his
> > > > > sincerity about being an evangelist.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Uncle Davey
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > They use psychological skills to convert people using their circular,
> > > > viral logic, and they do it so that they can sit around taking a tax
> off
> > > > their converts for as long as they live afterwards.
> > > >
> > > > That's what they do. It's a career option. You talk about free
> markets,
> > > > but free market theory doesn't work when people are capable of being
> > > > duped by craftier psychologies like these evangelists. That's why we
> > > > have law to protect people from subliminal advertising, and the same
> > > > should be done for teleevangelism and other mass evangelism by people
> > > > doing it as a business. I would tend to be more convinced by someone
> > > > like yourself who doesn't try to get money off the people you convert.
> > > >
> > > > You make it sound like Gastrich is worse off doing what he is now than
> > > > he could be doing a normal job, but presumably you have no basis in
> fact
> > > > for that, it is just a touching piece of solidarity with your co-
> > > > religionist. I bet he hasn't let you or anybody else here know what he
> > > > makes a year or showed you what he's got in the bank.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > James King
> > > >
> > > > www.anews.co.uk
> > > > The best UK based serious news digest on the internet
> > >
> > > Of course, all of this would come over with a lot more sincerity from
> > > someone who wasn't at the same time advertising their own web service in
> > > every post.
> > >
> > > Uncle Davey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That's a non-religious matter. And it's a free service anyway. I don't
> > make money from it. You make money from a non-religious source and so
> > you are not controversial, and neither am I.
> >
> > That's why I don't need to be accountable and you don't need to be
> > accountable. Gastrich runs a "not-for-profit" (ie a "not-for-profit-
> > only-for-wages") institution, so he should be showing accounts.
>
> I don't know what the American standards of accounting for charities are and
> I doubt you do either, but one thing I will say is this:
>
> On that website you will find a lot of resources which you can use for free
> and you never need to pay for them.
>
> If you never pay any Church or Christian full time servant a penny, that's
> between you and God. Ain't nobody gonna ax you what you did with your money,
> unless you get married to a nosey woman. I hear there are such in existence,
> and I don't necessarily recommend them for you.
>
> So relax.
>
> Don't let worrying about people's finances come between you and the Lord.
>
> Uncle Davey
>
>
>
Actually, I didn't think there was any other kind. So it looks like
you're recommending me to become a homosexual. What kind of Christian
advice is that?
--
James King
www.anews.co.uk
The best UK based serious news digest on the internet
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