In article <0001HW.BFB9DB0F0008215EF0305550@news.easynews.com>, Caprice
<Caprice@badluck.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 03:59:05 -0800, Y-Not:: wrote
> (in article <051220050659056307%+10$-Y-Not@here.com>):
>
> > In article <0001HW.BFB8D1330086BA87F0305550@news.easynews.com>, Caprice
> > <Caprice@badluck.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 14:54:37 -0800, Y-Not:: wrote
> >> (in article <041220051754372174%+10$-Y-Not@here.com>):
> >>
> >>> In article <4pDkf.181909$7k1.133373@fe12.news.easynews.com>, abc
> >>> <abc@wxyz.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4-Dec-2005, "::Y-Not::" <+10$-Y-Not@here.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> What I'm doing with Michael, is mostly to entertain PM, because he has
> >>>>> cut himself off from the Fort, and is missing some fun things.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmmmm...
> >>>>
> >>>> I am as certain as the sun will rise in the East tomorrow that PM would
> >>>> *never* want anyone to play with another poster for his entertainment.
> >>>>
> >>>> He is above such things, and shame on you for bringing PM's name into the
> >>>> mind games you are trying to play with Michael.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> abc
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I wasn't playing. Unlike you, I don't do that here.
> >>>
> >>> I don't waste my time and efforts to post for only one reason. My most
> >>> recent posts to Michael show that.
> >>> You are here for your "pleasure". I am here to work.
> >>>
> >>> PM knows that I treat religion VERY seriously. So should you.
> >>>
> >>> Michael is not open to your manipulation. I like that about him.
> >>> PM is not going to allow your friendship destroying manipulations to
> >>> affect him again.
> >>>
> >>> I predicted that you and Caprice would post more objections.
> >>> Michael understands persecution. How do you think your group's
> >>> continuing to do that to me, will affect him? You are playing with
> >>> things here you do not understand. You may very well cause to happen
> >>> what you are trying to prevent. I would rather that people make their
> >>> own decisions of their own free will.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Y Not
> >>
> >> Is there any situation you will not try to turn to your advantage? This is
> >> all some demented game to you; every word of it. It is your pleasure much
> >> more so than mine...
> >
> > So you admit to having pleasure in attacking people?
> > That's disgusting!
> >
> > I don't take pleasure in my work. I am required by my commitment to be
> > here. Typing hurts. Pain is NO fun for me.
> >
> > Unlike you, I don't have to try to "turn" situations any which way. The
> > truth speaks for itself. If you didn't act with childish resentment and
> > hostility, and stopped telling such obvious lies, there would be no
> > situations that you think I want to "turn". When you stop creating this
> > situations, you would not have them to complain about.
> > Unfortunately, this idea seems to be a little too complicated for you
> > to grasp.
> >
> >> How can this charade you are perpetrating to Michael be called work? I
> >> ask
> >> the questions others have asked. What is this work? On who's behalf are
> >> your 'working'? Who is your boss? Who asked you do this work?
> >
> > You call religious studies a charade? This will NOT impress Michael, or
> > anyone else who values religion and scholarship.
> >
> >> You won't answer. Certainly you haven't answered. All that's forthcoming
> >> is
> >> just more of your 'game' of verbal sparring.
> >
> > I have answered your questions many times. Most people here know that.
> > So your continuing to say that I haven't, is an obvious lie to them.
> > You offered to post my mission statement, in another group. This means
> > that you have it, and have the answers to your questions you are asking
> > here. When will you post it? Why haven't you? What are you afraid of?
> >
> >> Why don't you stop screwing around with Michael "For PM's entertainment"
> >> and
> >> let the man be. You're helping him? Like you were helping Mac? Help to
> >> you means to become one of your robots....KH is now one of your pet
> >> projects...haven't quite him turned around completely though...
> >
> > It is not possible to do that to anyone in Usenet.
> > You insult the people who you think this can happen to.
> > I have done nothing specifically to influence KH in any way. What HAS
> > caused him to not fight with me, is the destructive dishonorable
> > tactics that you and others, particularly abc, are using against
> > people. He doesn't support me, he is just against what he sees you
> > people doing. YOU are causing all this that you don't like, and it's
> > likely to get worse, from your point of view, the more you keep at it.
> > The truth is in here (X-Files?), and no amount of your clumsy lies will
> > keep them from seeing it. I know this, because the emails I get express
> > this. The more that people like you attack others, the more people you
> > turn away from you. Not that I expect you to understand that.
> >
> >> Are you paid by the person or are you on salary in this 'work' of yours.
> >> How
> >> much did you get for helping to bust Homeanon? 30 pieces.....? I'd
> >> rather
> >> be a little compulsive than a full blown psychopath.
> >
> > I already told you, and everyone else, that I'm retired. I just do
> > volunteer work. This means that I get no money from anyone. This
> > actually annoys some of the people I help. They want to give me
> > something in return. I tell them to help others, instead.
> >
> > You have already said many times that I am NOT psychopath, or
> > psychotic. Now you are trying to say that I am. Either way, you show
> > your incompetence with psychology, that you actually don't believe in,
> > because such a condition can not be diagnosed from my posts, or the
> > posts of anyone else here. This is like when you said that there is no
> > such thing as the ego, and then said that the Eastern concept of the
> > ego was more valid, and that I had a big Western ego that doesn't exist
> > for you, when I was expressing the Eastern ego to you.
> > It's possible that your actual understanding of these things far
> > exceeds your ability to express them, but as a teacher, I really doubt
> > that.
> >
> > "30 pieces" is really cute. Should we tell Michael what Homeanon
> > actually did to children, and what you think I did to stop him? DO you?
> > Have you actually READ Michael's posts? Do you want to make him LOVE
> > me? That's what could happen. Do you really want that? You really are a
> > fool. Even abc wouldn't have brought this up in a thread that involves
> > Michael.
> > Well, I don't want this to influence Michael's feelings about me. I
> > want to engage his mind, not his emotions.
> >
> > I do NOT want people here to love me. This is counterproductive to my
> > professional activities in these groups. You may recall the
> > "attachment" mini-discussion I had with Ronin. That's what it was
> > about, if you hadn't understood it then. I also had a much more
> > complete discussion about the subject with Ninja in the Fort, quite
> > some time ago.
> >
> >> With regard to your and Ronin's discussion of message and messenger, I'd
> >> think a couple of deep eastern thinkers like yourselves would know that
> >> the
> >> two are inseparable....
> >
> > Here you show that you don't know what you are talking about.
> > Consider perception.
> >
> > And then there is this:
> > If your dog brings you the newspaper... Well?
> >
> >> Of course, what do I know? I'm just one of those ....how did he put
> >> it...."Gifted 13 year old schooldhildren...". You both continue to think
> >> you
> >> are above. There is you and then the rest of the crowd. Remember I
> >> commented a while back that "them is us"... guess you don't agree...
> >
> > You are "portly". Should we consider that you are not? YOU are into the
> > denying reality gig, not us. When one denies reality, one's resulting
> > actions are not optimal.
> > If I treated you as my intellectual equal, you would not understand a
> > thing I communicated, but my peers would. So I MUST, in communicating
> > with you, dumb down my posts. It can't be helped.
> > Of course you resent this. Immature people DO. But it doesn't have to
> > be this way, if you actually make an effort to know what you are
> > talking about. There is NO excuse for expressing your physical and
> > mental laziness.
> >
> >> Are you going to start referring to yourself in the third person too?
> >>
> >
> > Not that fat. So far, there is just enough for one of me. But with my
> > hearty appreciation of donuts, chocolate, sugar glazed (just had one),
> > I may eventually become somewhat plump. :-)
> >
> >
> > Y Not
> >
> >
> > PS.
> > THere is something familiar with the email address you recently posted.
> > Please be careful.
> >
> >
> > "The extent of a man's ignorance
> > is not measured in what he doesn't know,
> > but in what he refuses to learn."
> > (borrowed with permission from oDDz Bodtkin, who shares the stars.)
>
> Ah, the old arthritic hands lie.
>
> My hands are so bad, I'm only able to post several thousand words a
> day.....(more prolific than most authors who are happy with a few hundred).
>
> And the pain.....the pain....and I"m only talking about the recipients....
>
> Is this where I put the smiley face meant to be disarming?? :-)
>
I'm somewhat curious about something. You said "most authors who are
happy with a few hundred" words a day. Is this really correct? Where
did you get this information? When I was writing for publication, I
wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than at least 20 pages a day.
I would do nothing else, until I did. Not eating or even using the
bathroom. This was when I was doing all the typing myself. Usually, I
dictated much of what I published. Editing that, was actually more
difficult than if I had typed it myself.
When I work, I WORK until it's done, or i'm physically unable to
continue. Actually, this disturbs people who are with me, when I do
that.
Also, you said I "post several thousand words a day". Is this really
true? Have you actually counted just MY words every day, or are you
actually counting the quoted text as well? All this is just a matter of
mild personal curiosity, but perhaps I should find this out for myself,
considering that you have never, as far as I know, failed to be grossly
inaccurate. Since I save my posts (2115 so far this year), I can do an
accurate count. If I do that, and the results show you to be wrong,
should I post that information here? Or do you actually care whether
you are right or wrong, at all?
"Ah, the old arthritic hands lie."
Here you are saying that I lie, about something for which you can have
no knowledge. This makes what you said a lie.
Actually, I have problems with arthritis all over, and not just in my
hands. With typing, it's the wristsand one elbow that are the most
painful, and the fingers that go numb, and this week, I was recovering
from a sliced finger. The bandage is off today, and it seems to be OK,
even if it doesn't look all that nice. This week the typing pain is
more than usual, because of the new office chair. The slight difference
in hight, may take a while longer go get used to. If I can. All this is
evident in my typing in IMs, where I make too many typing mistakes to
correct. Those who with IM with me know I have these problems, because
it's quite obvious, and my IM friends have probably discussed this with
CH.
There are people here who know the truth, and can SEE that I don't lie.
So, they can see that YOU lie, and that you are a real fool to do that
where those who know the truth can see it. It looks as if you really
can't stop yourself. You DO need professional help.
By the way, this isn't email. There are no "recipients". All people see
of my posts is my name and the subject line, before they CHOOSE to read
the message. If reading my posts causes them pain, why do they do it?
Are you calling them masochists? I already speculated that you might be
one. With this, are you trying to tell me you ARE? It this really a
call for help for you? Well, go get some. Then come back after a few
years of treatment.
There are 2670 charactures in the above text, 514 words and 42
sentances, including the copy/pasted quots in the body of my text
above.
Are you happy to know this? :-)
[banter banter banter banter banter banter banter banter]
Y Not
PS.
Michael said "I take joy in persecution."
You and abc are persecuting me in front of Michael.
Do you REALLY want to be doing this?
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