On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 03:59:05 -0800, Y-Not:: wrote
(in article <051220050659056307%+10$-Y-Not@here.com>):
> In article <0001HW.BFB8D1330086BA87F0305550@news.easynews.com>, Caprice
> <Caprice@badluck.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 14:54:37 -0800, Y-Not:: wrote
>> (in article <041220051754372174%+10$-Y-Not@here.com>):
>>
>>> In article <4pDkf.181909$7k1.133373@fe12.news.easynews.com>, abc
>>> <abc@wxyz.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4-Dec-2005, "::Y-Not::" <+10$-Y-Not@here.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What I'm doing with Michael, is mostly to entertain PM, because he has
>>>>> cut himself off from the Fort, and is missing some fun things.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm...
>>>>
>>>> I am as certain as the sun will rise in the East tomorrow that PM would
>>>> *never* want anyone to play with another poster for his entertainment.
>>>>
>>>> He is above such things, and shame on you for bringing PM's name into the
>>>> mind games you are trying to play with Michael.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> abc
>>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't playing. Unlike you, I don't do that here.
>>>
>>> I don't waste my time and efforts to post for only one reason. My most
>>> recent posts to Michael show that.
>>> You are here for your "pleasure". I am here to work.
>>>
>>> PM knows that I treat religion VERY seriously. So should you.
>>>
>>> Michael is not open to your manipulation. I like that about him.
>>> PM is not going to allow your friendship destroying manipulations to
>>> affect him again.
>>>
>>> I predicted that you and Caprice would post more objections.
>>> Michael understands persecution. How do you think your group's
>>> continuing to do that to me, will affect him? You are playing with
>>> things here you do not understand. You may very well cause to happen
>>> what you are trying to prevent. I would rather that people make their
>>> own decisions of their own free will.
>>>
>>>
>>> Y Not
>>
>> Is there any situation you will not try to turn to your advantage? This is
>> all some demented game to you; every word of it. It is your pleasure much
>> more so than mine...
>
> So you admit to having pleasure in attacking people?
> That's disgusting!
>
> I don't take pleasure in my work. I am required by my commitment to be
> here. Typing hurts. Pain is NO fun for me.
>
> Unlike you, I don't have to try to "turn" situations any which way. The
> truth speaks for itself. If you didn't act with childish resentment and
> hostility, and stopped telling such obvious lies, there would be no
> situations that you think I want to "turn". When you stop creating this
> situations, you would not have them to complain about.
> Unfortunately, this idea seems to be a little too complicated for you
> to grasp.
>
>> How can this charade you are perpetrating to Michael be called work? I
>> ask
>> the questions others have asked. What is this work? On who's behalf are
>> your 'working'? Who is your boss? Who asked you do this work?
>
> You call religious studies a charade? This will NOT impress Michael, or
> anyone else who values religion and scholarship.
>
>> You won't answer. Certainly you haven't answered. All that's forthcoming
>> is
>> just more of your 'game' of verbal sparring.
>
> I have answered your questions many times. Most people here know that.
> So your continuing to say that I haven't, is an obvious lie to them.
> You offered to post my mission statement, in another group. This means
> that you have it, and have the answers to your questions you are asking
> here. When will you post it? Why haven't you? What are you afraid of?
>
>> Why don't you stop screwing around with Michael "For PM's entertainment"
>> and
>> let the man be. You're helping him? Like you were helping Mac? Help to
>> you means to become one of your robots....KH is now one of your pet
>> projects...haven't quite him turned around completely though...
>
> It is not possible to do that to anyone in Usenet.
> You insult the people who you think this can happen to.
> I have done nothing specifically to influence KH in any way. What HAS
> caused him to not fight with me, is the destructive dishonorable
> tactics that you and others, particularly abc, are using against
> people. He doesn't support me, he is just against what he sees you
> people doing. YOU are causing all this that you don't like, and it's
> likely to get worse, from your point of view, the more you keep at it.
> The truth is in here (X-Files?), and no amount of your clumsy lies will
> keep them from seeing it. I know this, because the emails I get express
> this. The more that people like you attack others, the more people you
> turn away from you. Not that I expect you to understand that.
>
>> Are you paid by the person or are you on salary in this 'work' of yours.
>> How
>> much did you get for helping to bust Homeanon? 30 pieces.....? I'd rather
>> be a little compulsive than a full blown psychopath.
>
> I already told you, and everyone else, that I'm retired. I just do
> volunteer work. This means that I get no money from anyone. This
> actually annoys some of the people I help. They want to give me
> something in return. I tell them to help others, instead.
>
> You have already said many times that I am NOT psychopath, or
> psychotic. Now you are trying to say that I am. Either way, you show
> your incompetence with psychology, that you actually don't believe in,
> because such a condition can not be diagnosed from my posts, or the
> posts of anyone else here. This is like when you said that there is no
> such thing as the ego, and then said that the Eastern concept of the
> ego was more valid, and that I had a big Western ego that doesn't exist
> for you, when I was expressing the Eastern ego to you.
> It's possible that your actual understanding of these things far
> exceeds your ability to express them, but as a teacher, I really doubt
> that.
>
> "30 pieces" is really cute. Should we tell Michael what Homeanon
> actually did to children, and what you think I did to stop him? DO you?
> Have you actually READ Michael's posts? Do you want to make him LOVE
> me? That's what could happen. Do you really want that? You really are a
> fool. Even abc wouldn't have brought this up in a thread that involves
> Michael.
> Well, I don't want this to influence Michael's feelings about me. I
> want to engage his mind, not his emotions.
>
> I do NOT want people here to love me. This is counterproductive to my
> professional activities in these groups. You may recall the
> "attachment" mini-discussion I had with Ronin. That's what it was
> about, if you hadn't understood it then. I also had a much more
> complete discussion about the subject with Ninja in the Fort, quite
> some time ago.
>
>> With regard to your and Ronin's discussion of message and messenger, I'd
>> think a couple of deep eastern thinkers like yourselves would know that the
>> two are inseparable....
>
> Here you show that you don't know what you are talking about.
> Consider perception.
>
> And then there is this:
> If your dog brings you the newspaper... Well?
>
>> Of course, what do I know? I'm just one of those ....how did he put
>> it...."Gifted 13 year old schooldhildren...". You both continue to think
>> you
>> are above. There is you and then the rest of the crowd. Remember I
>> commented a while back that "them is us"... guess you don't agree...
>
> You are "portly". Should we consider that you are not? YOU are into the
> denying reality gig, not us. When one denies reality, one's resulting
> actions are not optimal.
> If I treated you as my intellectual equal, you would not understand a
> thing I communicated, but my peers would. So I MUST, in communicating
> with you, dumb down my posts. It can't be helped.
> Of course you resent this. Immature people DO. But it doesn't have to
> be this way, if you actually make an effort to know what you are
> talking about. There is NO excuse for expressing your physical and
> mental laziness.
>
>> Are you going to start referring to yourself in the third person too?
>>
>
> Not that fat. So far, there is just enough for one of me. But with my
> hearty appreciation of donuts, chocolate, sugar glazed (just had one),
> I may eventually become somewhat plump. :-)
>
>
> Y Not
>
>
> PS.
> THere is something familiar with the email address you recently posted.
> Please be careful.
>
>
> "The extent of a man's ignorance
> is not measured in what he doesn't know,
> but in what he refuses to learn."
> (borrowed with permission from oDDz Bodtkin, who shares the stars.)
Ah, the old arthritic hands lie.
My hands are so bad, I'm only able to post several thousand words a
day.....(more prolific than most authors who are happy with a few hundred).
And the pain.....the pain....and I"m only talking about the recipients....
Is this where I put the smiley face meant to be disarming?? :-)
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