In article <0001HW.BFB8D1330086BA87F0305550@news.easynews.com>, Caprice
<Caprice@badluck.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 14:54:37 -0800, Y-Not:: wrote
> (in article <041220051754372174%+10$-Y-Not@here.com>):
>
> > In article <4pDkf.181909$7k1.133373@fe12.news.easynews.com>, abc
> > <abc@wxyz.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4-Dec-2005, "::Y-Not::" <+10$-Y-Not@here.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What I'm doing with Michael, is mostly to entertain PM, because he has
> >>> cut himself off from the Fort, and is missing some fun things.
> >>
> >> Hmmmm...
> >>
> >> I am as certain as the sun will rise in the East tomorrow that PM would
> >> *never* want anyone to play with another poster for his entertainment.
> >>
> >> He is above such things, and shame on you for bringing PM's name into the
> >> mind games you are trying to play with Michael.
> >>
> >> --
> >> abc
> >
> >
> > I wasn't playing. Unlike you, I don't do that here.
> >
> > I don't waste my time and efforts to post for only one reason. My most
> > recent posts to Michael show that.
> > You are here for your "pleasure". I am here to work.
> >
> > PM knows that I treat religion VERY seriously. So should you.
> >
> > Michael is not open to your manipulation. I like that about him.
> > PM is not going to allow your friendship destroying manipulations to
> > affect him again.
> >
> > I predicted that you and Caprice would post more objections.
> > Michael understands persecution. How do you think your group's
> > continuing to do that to me, will affect him? You are playing with
> > things here you do not understand. You may very well cause to happen
> > what you are trying to prevent. I would rather that people make their
> > own decisions of their own free will.
> >
> >
> > Y Not
>
> Is there any situation you will not try to turn to your advantage? This is
> all some demented game to you; every word of it. It is your pleasure much
> more so than mine...
So you admit to having pleasure in attacking people?
That's disgusting!
I don't take pleasure in my work. I am required by my commitment to be
here. Typing hurts. Pain is NO fun for me.
Unlike you, I don't have to try to "turn" situations any which way. The
truth speaks for itself. If you didn't act with childish resentment and
hostility, and stopped telling such obvious lies, there would be no
situations that you think I want to "turn". When you stop creating this
situations, you would not have them to complain about.
Unfortunately, this idea seems to be a little too complicated for you
to grasp.
> How can this charade you are perpetrating to Michael be called work? I ask
> the questions others have asked. What is this work? On who's behalf are
> your 'working'? Who is your boss? Who asked you do this work?
You call religious studies a charade? This will NOT impress Michael, or
anyone else who values religion and scholarship.
> You won't answer. Certainly you haven't answered. All that's forthcoming is
> just more of your 'game' of verbal sparring.
I have answered your questions many times. Most people here know that.
So your continuing to say that I haven't, is an obvious lie to them.
You offered to post my mission statement, in another group. This means
that you have it, and have the answers to your questions you are asking
here. When will you post it? Why haven't you? What are you afraid of?
> Why don't you stop screwing around with Michael "For PM's entertainment" and
> let the man be. You're helping him? Like you were helping Mac? Help to
> you means to become one of your robots....KH is now one of your pet
> projects...haven't quite him turned around completely though...
It is not possible to do that to anyone in Usenet.
You insult the people who you think this can happen to.
I have done nothing specifically to influence KH in any way. What HAS
caused him to not fight with me, is the destructive dishonorable
tactics that you and others, particularly abc, are using against
people. He doesn't support me, he is just against what he sees you
people doing. YOU are causing all this that you don't like, and it's
likely to get worse, from your point of view, the more you keep at it.
The truth is in here (X-Files?), and no amount of your clumsy lies will
keep them from seeing it. I know this, because the emails I get express
this. The more that people like you attack others, the more people you
turn away from you. Not that I expect you to understand that.
> Are you paid by the person or are you on salary in this 'work' of yours. How
> much did you get for helping to bust Homeanon? 30 pieces.....? I'd rather
> be a little compulsive than a full blown psychopath.
I already told you, and everyone else, that I'm retired. I just do
volunteer work. This means that I get no money from anyone. This
actually annoys some of the people I help. They want to give me
something in return. I tell them to help others, instead.
You have already said many times that I am NOT psychopath, or
psychotic. Now you are trying to say that I am. Either way, you show
your incompetence with psychology, that you actually don't believe in,
because such a condition can not be diagnosed from my posts, or the
posts of anyone else here. This is like when you said that there is no
such thing as the ego, and then said that the Eastern concept of the
ego was more valid, and that I had a big Western ego that doesn't exist
for you, when I was expressing the Eastern ego to you.
It's possible that your actual understanding of these things far
exceeds your ability to express them, but as a teacher, I really doubt
that.
"30 pieces" is really cute. Should we tell Michael what Homeanon
actually did to children, and what you think I did to stop him? DO you?
Have you actually READ Michael's posts? Do you want to make him LOVE
me? That's what could happen. Do you really want that? You really are a
fool. Even abc wouldn't have brought this up in a thread that involves
Michael.
Well, I don't want this to influence Michael's feelings about me. I
want to engage his mind, not his emotions.
I do NOT want people here to love me. This is counterproductive to my
professional activities in these groups. You may recall the
"attachment" mini-discussion I had with Ronin. That's what it was
about, if you hadn't understood it then. I also had a much more
complete discussion about the subject with Ninja in the Fort, quite
some time ago.
> With regard to your and Ronin's discussion of message and messenger, I'd
> think a couple of deep eastern thinkers like yourselves would know that the
> two are inseparable....
Here you show that you don't know what you are talking about.
Consider perception.
And then there is this:
If your dog brings you the newspaper... Well?
> Of course, what do I know? I'm just one of those ....how did he put
> it...."Gifted 13 year old schooldhildren...". You both continue to think you
> are above. There is you and then the rest of the crowd. Remember I
> commented a while back that "them is us"... guess you don't agree...
You are "portly". Should we consider that you are not? YOU are into the
denying reality gig, not us. When one denies reality, one's resulting
actions are not optimal.
If I treated you as my intellectual equal, you would not understand a
thing I communicated, but my peers would. So I MUST, in communicating
with you, dumb down my posts. It can't be helped.
Of course you resent this. Immature people DO. But it doesn't have to
be this way, if you actually make an effort to know what you are
talking about. There is NO excuse for expressing your physical and
mental laziness.
> Are you going to start referring to yourself in the third person too?
>
Not that fat. So far, there is just enough for one of me. But with my
hearty appreciation of donuts, chocolate, sugar glazed (just had one),
I may eventually become somewhat plump. :-)
Y Not
PS.
THere is something familiar with the email address you recently posted.
Please be careful.
"The extent of a man's ignorance
is not measured in what he doesn't know,
but in what he refuses to learn."
(borrowed with permission from oDDz Bodtkin, who shares the stars.)
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