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Max Grrl <maxtheangel@gmail.com> wrote in
news:010120071230519095%maxtheangel@gmail.com:
> In article
> <20070101133025.DE33263796@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org
> >, Baal <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
>
> I think it provides temptation and false rationale to those
> who can't afford those things.
>
> Let me put it this way: Would I like to indulge in my
> "fantasies" and write about murder? You betcha. But if I
> DID, if there were ONE psychopath who might use my writings
> to hurt another human being . . well, I could simply not
> take that chance. It's better that I deny myself to protect
> others. It's a responsibility I accept in order to be a
> part of a society.
Just a point: if the stories of fictional stories of murder
and mayhem were banned, then any psychopath who wanted to
"get off" on such stuff would turn to non-fiction: accounts
of real murders, acts of violence in war, etc. There's just
no way to prevent this.
>> I believe that both these propositions are equally
>> wrong-headed. It _is_ possible to remove oneself from
>> temptation--you've stated that you do that yourself. It is
>> _not_ possible (nor reasonable) to re-make society so as
>> to remove all of the many and varied sources of
>> temptation.
>
> No, and I don't claim that anyone can remake society - I'm
> simply stating that the right thing to do is to deny
> yourself the pleasure that would cause another pain.
>
> I'm not responsible for society at large - only my actions
> and those consequences that would come as a result of my
> actions. As is Frank for his.
>
> At this moment, he's being irresponsible.
>>
>> You cannot condemn Frank for being 'immoral' for writing
>> his stories, while not
>> also condemning the authors of murder mysteries,
>> horror/crime flicks and violent
>> porn flicks. (FWIW, violent porn flicks are also illegal
>> in Canada.)
>
> Yes, I can. I have no contact with any other authors -
> other than the ones who wrote Freakonomics, but that's
> another story. : ) - and as I mentioned before, I do not
> think that the other authors (Christie, Sandford, et al)
> have any desire to live their writings. But Frank does.
Frank does? I've not read any of Frank's stories, but I
thought that Frank always took the point of view of the girl
in them. If that's so, it would be quite impossible for him
to "live his writings", he'd have to change both his age and
gender.
Besides, how do you know what motivates Christie et al? I've
always wondered about people who write full-time about murder
and mayhem, just like I do with people who have a strange
obsesssion with personal firearms.
I can't say that there is a two-way street, but there is
a correspondence between violent serial sex killers and
possession of "true life crime" magazines detailing the
violent rape and murder of women. (Please, not saying
that people who read such stuff are serial sex murderers,
just that serial sex murderers--at least the ones who get
caught--frequently read such stuff). Violent sex offenders
are more turned on by depictions, real-life or fictional,
of violence more than by pornography, including child porn.
Secret Squirrel
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