In article <46d7a9e8$0$4241$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com>,
FredCThompson <fthompson@rnc.org> wrote:
> I'm not sure you and I really disagree, because it seems you are saying what
> I always have thought. Trolls only really ruin groups when posters give in
> and leave.
>
> When B&C first started their campaigns, I was heartened that posters and
> lurkers stuck it out for a long time and just treated B&C like the minor
> annoyance they are.
>
> I'm sorry you don't understand what my point is with the clue I gave.
>
> Maybe if you'd make up your mind about which position you really want to
> defend, it will become clear.
>
> The trolls want to parade their silly asses around pretending they are
> morally superior to BLs.
>
> By using these clues, they will only find the groups is by joining us all in
> viewing the movies they curse us for watching.
>
> No one is twisting their arms to post their filth (meaning the hateful
> trolls posts) and no one is helped by them doing so. They have NO moral
> mandate for chasing us around usenet.
>
> Anyway, your message is at least not premature, as was Daktal's. At the
> time he posted his message condemning me for exposing groups, I hadn't done
> any such thing.
>
> That is why I called him an idiot.
>
> Maybe you should go back and read my post, instead of just reacting to it.
>
> As for me somehow helping the trolls find new groups just by acknowledging
> they exist, get a fucking clue, sister. These trolls know they are nothing
> but a petty annoyance and that groups like this will go on and on and on and
> on and on, no matter WHAT they try to do to disrupt them.
>
> The funny thing is that if they had even a tenth of a brain between them
> all, and the REALLY wanted to stop these groups, there are COUNTLESS ways of
> doing JUST THAT.
>
> Were I myself a troll, I could make every binary group I chose to become a
> confused mess of worthless gobbilty-goop...OVERNIGHT.
>
> I could employ three separate but concerted troll "tricks" to not only foil
> any attempt at posting binaries, but also any attempt to explain to others
> how to thwart my malicious efforts.
>
> The only things I could not do would be to truly FORCE posters to quit.
> Therefore, I would have to spend a great deal of time and energy to keep up
> my assualt.
>
> Trolls have proven, time and again, that they don't have the stomach for a
> truly intensive, prolonged confrontation. They just like posting their
> hateful text messages declaring victory, which all too often they have the
> right to do since so many posters are so easily dispatched by their
> temporary attacks.
>
> It all makes me wonder, what did these guys do when a bully picked on them
> in grade school? Did they hand over their lunch money in a pre-addressed
> envelope and yank their own underwear up their own butcracks upon seeing
> their tormentors? This seems most likely.
>
> Guess what I did?
>
> I told those bullies exactly what I thought of them, explained that they
> would NOT get any such satisfaction from me, and encouraged others to do
> exactly the same.
>
> Many disagreed with me then.
>
> And it seems a few still do.
>
> Don't run from trolls. Kill filter them and POST LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW.
> And every once in a while, thank the trolls for doing your advertizing for
> you. That's what trolls are REALLY for, after all.
>
> If anyone else, especially those who currently post in this or other groups
> where I have invited criticism, would care to comment, I am happy to
> consider any message that doesn't insult me or question my motives, as
> Daktal did.
>
> For now, anyway, I have no reason to repeat or reproduce the clue I already
> gave.
>
> I'm particularly puzzled as to why no one is criticizing the poster who
> quoted Harry Potter. Is a double standard at work here? If so, WHY?
Because Dumbledore died?
I don't feel like criticizing somebody who wants to keep secret groups
secret or somebody who gives incomprehensible clues to them but I do
feel like criticizing people who call a BL a troll and an idiot for
trying to protect fellow BLs and what they want no matter how
inaccurate he may be and even if I disagree with what he supports.
Now you know. I disagree with name-calling. When you confronted the
bullies did their attitudes and tactics rub off on you a little? I hope
its just a little. My mind was already made up. I was defending
civility.
The only maybe insult I see in his post is "You will never learn." That
could be a collective "you" meaning secret group members or people who
give clues to them. I took it that way and the other "you"s in his post
the same. I said it that way about the entire secret groups issue in my
post with "but people never learn". History repeats itself like a
stutterer in an echo canyon and you and he are proving it right here.
Secret groups are bad for us. They make BLs fight with each other.
A message to forestall a suspected future destructive (in his opinion)
action is appropriate not premature. He didn't really condemn you for
anything yet. Give him time. LOL
For your information about destroying groups a BL really did that to
the group where they recently stopped posting webcams. That group first
used to belong to Obelix. It was secret until a BL accidently mentioned
it in the fort. Obelix didn't treat the new BL visitors very well and
one of them got angry and flooded the group continuously every day with
junk for months which made it unusable. It was abandoned and caused a
lot of bad feelings.
I have a friend who knows a lot about how usenet works and has some
major connections. He says he can make a group not accept any
propagated posts which would make it really dead. He told me how it can
be done and I believe him. Who cares? People will just move to new
groups. Trolls don't want us to stop posting and leave. They need us
here to give them something to hate to make their lives have meaning
they don't have in their sorry real life existence. I don't kill filter
them. I ignore them when I'm not laughing at their blind stupidity.
I have a friend who helped set up lots of secret BL movie groups in
succession. People kept making mistakes in them and harassing BLs
showed up to ruin them.
I don't know the name of the new secret group. I don't agree with the
whole idea but if I find it out I won't expose it. Unfortunately for
downloaders I can't post things in a group I don't know about. I didn't
post often so that won't matter much and I don't feel like changing my
name.
--
Grant
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