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Subject: Re: Chicago - Chicago Transit Authority (1969) [24] {HDtracks} - "Chicago - Chicago Transit Authority (1969) [24]"
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In reply to "Stanley Turpentine" who wrote the following:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:49:37 GMT, nono <nono@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 08:46:35 -0500, Stanley Turpentine wrote:
> >
> > > On 13 Feb 2016 20:00:48 GMT, d(-_-)b Who?? <who@whatwhere.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In reply to "d(-_-)b Who??" who wrote the following:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for a great new one!
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > And wow it sounds great too! Love them 192s!
> > >
> > > For those interested:
> > > This is a different master than the one from MFSL on SACD.
> > > The SACD I believe to be the original master tape and the this HDTracks
> > > one, I can hear Mid/Side processing which makes for a very different
> > > stereo image and placement, in addition the HDTracks master sounds
> > > considerably muffled in comparison. There are pluses to each though. The
> > > SACD has a much wider stereo image, very little in the center and the
> > > reverb is much more obvious, whereas the HDTracks one has nicer
> > > transients and a much fuller center. The drawbacks for the HDTracks one
> > > is that there are obvious phasing problems and image smearing caused by
> > > the Mid/Side processing and the biggest problem is that there is an
> > > added compressor which not only squashed the dynamic range but it wasnt
> > > set right either as there are obvious pumping artifacts. This was not
> > > there in the SACD version but it has other drawbacks itself. It seems
> > > the mastering engineers dont know their asses from holes in the ground,
> > > or they were pressured to do it that way.
> >
> > I do not recognize your listening experience, which may primarily depend
> > on your DA converter. So I am curious which DA converter you have.
>
> If you listen to both the SACD and the HDTracks you can clearly hear
> everything
> as I described. Perhaps you didnt hear the SACD version to be able to compare?
> You could have the worst converter and the worst headphones and would still be
> able to hear everything as I described. I've been able to compare many SACD
> and
> HDTracks and there are many instances where there are large differences, and
> many where the HDTracks are modified from the original master tape. With this
> particular release it is more than clear that there were significant changes
> done to it by a recent mastering engineer, or it may simply be that they chose
> a
> secondary master tape.
> I am an engineer with 33 years experience. The DA is an RME UFX and HD650
> headphones.
Hey I got the Sennheiser HD650s too! Love them! (B&H Photo had a sale $299 a
pair! A deal I could not ressist. Whish I'd bought a dozen! They sell for more
then that used on eBay!)
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