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Subject: Re: will someone digitize this logo? - hv.pes
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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:43:03 +0100
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Thanks for the links and also for the info. saving this for future ref.
Thanks again.
goneblonde
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:15:32 -0700, Herb <Herb@the.herb.garden>sayed:
>goneblonde wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:27:13 -0700, Herb <Herb@the.herb.garden>sayed:
>>
>>
>>>goneblonde wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Herb
>>>>
>>>>I'm been trying to learn to digi for awhile now and was wondering if you
>>>>look at my version of this logo and give me some pointers if you have the
>>>>time. Thanks for all you do.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sure -
>>>
>>>But first a couple of questions -
>>>
>>>First, did you do anything at all to change the graphic that crafty
>>>posted?
>>>That is, did you edit it with paint or photoshop or paintshop pro etc?
>>
>>
>> No just as it was. I have PSP7 but not very good at that either!
>>
>>>Second, exactly what DID you do, and with what digitizing program, and
>>>what steps did you take (autodigitize the whole thing, select by area,
>>>by color, etc.)?
>>
>> Used Artista4 adjusted the graphic to fit a small hoop.
>
>This usually works well, but not always.
>
>> used the omit colour white.
>
>Hmm.. you don't get that dialog box unless you choose to autodigitize
>(the paintbrush-y looking icon on top).
>
>> Then area by area.
>
>Did you do BOTH? First autodigitize and then area by area?
>
>> Used satin for HH
>
>When I autodigitized the whole thing, the M in the HM (not HH, btw)
>ended up with a silly looking fold. I did it again and wasn't able to
>reproduce the problem.
>
>> the step
>> fill for the rest. I had to adjust the white outline by the red V as this
>> was too thin.
>
>A matter of choice. I find it easier to adjust the original graphic.
>
>> the lettering on the white going across was done letter by
>> letter auto digi with step fill.
>
>Small lettering just doesn't auto-trace well. On the other hand,
>I've never been able to figure out how to use the text creation ("A")
>when the text has a background. It's easy enough when text is
>separate, or stitching the text on top of a background, but not when
>it should be flush with the background.
>
>> When I took it into Embird had a few jumps
>> but it looked OK but was not pleased with the HH.
>
>I just went through pretty much the same steps as you did in Artista4,
> and got similar results, including the top the HM and the wings of
>the "V" not being parallel.
>
>> Maybe should have made them step stitch.
>
>It's easy enough to undo the last action and do it differently - then
>using the Artistic View to see what it looks like.
>
>> So you don't have to scroll to the bottom of this.
>> How did you know what font was used you seem to be able to recognize fonts
>> used in graphics, is it a trick or your knowledge of fonts or a program you
>> have to identify them?
>
>All of the above. For this one, I recognized the general form (very
>plain sans-serif with rounded ends) and knew that in such a small size
>the differences between the rounded versions of Arial, AG Book, VAG,
>wouldn't be significant. But because THIS time Click'n'stitch did a
>passable job digitizing the text, I didn't use any of them.
>
>When I just did it in Artista, the text looked pretty awful, so I
>deleted it and used Arial Rounded (because THAT's the one I already
>REALLY looking good. Now I think I ought to redo the design for the OP
>that way.
>
>There are two font identification facilities available:
>http://www.whatthefont.com and http://www.identifont.com
>
>The first one, 'WhatTheFont' requires a graphic image of the text to
>be identified, and it's very particular about what kind of image can
>be used - limited to 35 'elements', smaller than 200,000 pixels,
>letters that aren't touching, and a few other restrictions. It doesn't
>work with script fonts at all. Sometimes it works perfectly,
>sometimes it gives VERY strange results! It can only identify fonts
>from major foundries and those sold by MyFonts (the site's sponsor).
>
>Identifont asks you a series of questions like "Does the cross-bar of
>the E meet or cross the vertical?" and, like WhatTheFont, will often
>identify the font for you, but will equally often show you things that
>look absolutely NOTHING like what you started out with! It will
>suggest a list of fonts, some of which will have features contrary to
>what you specified.
>
>> Thanks again for you help.
>
>My pleasure.
>
> - Herb
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