Gandalf wrote:
> ac wrote:
> > Gandalf wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> One honest question looking for an honest answer;
> >>
> >> Do you really believe he archives your posts?
> >>
> >> --
> >> -Gandalf
> >>
> >> Never meddle in the affairs of a dragon for you are crunchy and taste
> >> good with ketchup!
> >
> > Gandalf
> > Honest answer ... obsession and flames aside
> > you know as well as anyone he's quoted from posts from as far back as 2004 on
> > more than one occasion
> > the last (as usual) ridiculously out of context excerpt being from a non flame
> > reply to sam i'm.
> >
> > this was presented and used as a straight quote to illustrate one of his
> > twisted threads
> > ****not**** as an impression of what had been said.
> >
> > So either he's a liar - and makes them up .... or the fruitcake keeps the
> > posts .... which do you choose?
> > I go for the christmas cake.
> >
> > obsession or not ... I only ever work with what I'm given ....
> >
> > even
> >>> ac himself posted in "yenc"
> > is out of context ... yEnc was always intended for large multimedia posting
> > (which I've never criticised) -
> > not for JPGs (which I have criticised).... and that's how I used it.
> > Doc on the other hand argues that yEnc is the best for any format of file ....
> >
> > but never uses it for either format himself.
> >
> > so Gandalf
> > that's my straight answer yes I think he archives
> >
> > and I am concerned about this group .... I prefer here to any of the other
> > groups
> > but ......
> >
> > now it's my turn .... what do you think about spam?
> > ....is it legitimate in this group or not?
> >
> > ac
>
> Thanks. That was an honest answer.
> Incorrect, but honest as you see it.
>
> I'm going to break one of my rules and lay out a few facts here, and
> that's the last of my time I'm going to waste on it.
>
> [Fact One]
> Doc does not archive your, nor anyone else's, posts.
> To think so is simple arrogance.
> No one in this [or any] group is as important to him as they are to
> themselves.
>
> When he needs to quote a previous post, or refresh his memory of an
> event or person, he does as most computer literates do and Google's the
> Usenet archive. [Since Google acquired DejaNews.]
>
> Being in the IT field, you do know that, barring a few exclusions, every
> Usenet text post since the beginning has been permanently archived, right?
>
> [Fact Two]
> The author of yEnc never imposed 'large multimedia posting' as a
> restriction, but simply made a tool for *binary* posts.
>
> Doc's involvement in the yEnc debates was essentially the same as mine.
> It's faster and more efficient, and [most importantly] it's the poster's
> choice.
> Use it or not, as you see fit.
>
> Where we [tinw] took exception was when leechers *demanded* posters not
> use it, for whatever silly reason/argument.
>
> The bottom line was, yEnc was here to stay whether any of us liked it or
> not. Therefore, the only logical [and intelligent] thing to do was to
> learn how to cope with it.
>
> Most lurkers adopted the free [and vastly superior] newsreaders that
> supported it internally. Others, while exercising their freedom of
> choice to remain with Outlook, were jumping on the yProxy bandwagon.
>
> Then there was a handful of ignorant, loudmouthed lusers, stuck in their
> 8-track days, that demanded all of Usenet stay put to serve them.
>
> Well, it's 2007 now and they've all finally fucked off and died as near
> as I can tell.
>
> [Fact Three]
> Spam is not legitimate in this or any other newsgroup.
>
> [Opinion]
> Doc posts on-topic, and always has.
> Yes, in the days of yore he, like me, posted shitloads of ph pics from
> various sources. Time constraints/family/lives prohibit that today.
>
> Yes, today he posts primarily for advertising his website.
> Again, always on-topic.
>
> This group has always been about discussion as well.
> Name one [real] spammer that's ever been in a discussion here.
> There are plenty of spammers in here posting the same, old tired shit,
> day after day.
> I don't see you climbing up PHPlease's ass, or NDNOutlaw, or whatever
> that asshole's name is.
> Shit, even the much admired Hudson is off-topic half the time.
>
> I believe it's simply a personal vendetta stemming from the original
> problem you had when I said it was bad 'netiquette to flood without
> indexes, and Doc joined in. [No, I don't archive messages either.]
>
> [Fact Four]
> You will believe what you want to believe and will always see yourself
> as right and somehow wronged by me and Doc.
>
> The difference is, *we* can live with that.
>
> --
> -Gandalf
>
> Never meddle in the affairs of a dragon for you are crunchy and taste
> good with ketchup!
Gandalf
I should have read doc's reply first .....
>>>>So he attacks the practice of keeping the old quotes which keep
>>>>showing him up.
>>>>But it's not that I "archive" them as much as they remain on my
>>>>machine, until I change machines
here is the [fact] according to doc
perfectly logical gandalf .... wouldn't you say so?
lol - Google eh! out of the mouth of babes .....
>>>It all started with that crazy yenc argument ac got into, which he now
>>>downplays, because I pointed out that he hypocritically used yenc
>>>himself just recently
Nor is this how you (or I) remembered it
the truth may be out there .... but it's nowhere near here
ac
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