Yeah! I agree with you! The original Hard Heroes scene with Speedy
being slimed and writhing in pain is the thing I want to see more of.
Die-Hard vs. Electro-Man had a lot of this too, with Electro losing his
powers after sucking on a dick-shaped lollipop and succumbing to
Die-Hard. Silly, I know, but more "boner-inducing" than a leather
glove over a kid's face. And seeing a kid hang from cuffs in his
designer undies is fine and all, but where's the jeopardy? What's The
Hand doing, while the boy is just hanging there? I know, holding his
own nutsac. I want to see heroes weakened and humiliated. And, I want
to see them battle back and win every once in awhile. And nothing
wrong with a sidekick or too thrown in just to admire his partner.
In article <e3la4v+t6ks@eGroups.com>, sheerstudd@aol.com wrote:
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>One thing that I find lacking in Hard Heroes is the real feel of
>super heroic peril beyond the costumes. What we see here is really
>a bunch of guys in costume showing up somewhere, and then getting
>either wrestled down or chloroformed. Mind you, I have no problem
>with either, but they're not exactly quite right.
>
>I have always been a big fan of the superheroic weakness. That
>special thing that takes the powerful hero and makes him powerless
>and weak. The Kryptonite-type Achilles Heel that all superheroes
>should have.
>
>It would be hot to see the scenarios worked so that we have the
>sense that the heroes are super-powered. I know that special
>effects are hard to arrange, but minor tricks can be used. The
>heroes should be able to easily break through supposedly locked
>doors and overpower villainous thugs, or even the villain.
>
>But then the villain unveils some kind of "Kryptonite", or activates
>some device, that takes away the studly hero's vaunted powers. Like
>maybe the boys from the Hand, only each subdued through power-
>stripping instead of chloroform. Then the heroes are put into
>bondage together, commiserating about how weak they each are and
>wondering what the villain has in store for them until he comes in
>and actually does it.
>
>The first Hard Heroes had this almost right. Omega's capture with
>the Omeganite rope was good, but too quick. It was over in an
>instant. It would be so much better to see the weakened hero slowly
>sagging to the floor, then crawling, trying to get away as the
>villain comes to tie him up. Speed Demon's capture was pretty much
>perfect, and has not been equalled since. Another option would have
>been when the mind controlled Speed Demon attacked Edge. Maybe
>instead of beating him down. He could have deceived his trusting
>buddy and stolen his power belt, leaving him vulnerable to attack by
>the villain's otherwise ordinary henchman?
>
>These are just some ideas. Anbody have any thoughts?
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