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Bob Cunningham (exw6sxq@earthlink.net) 2005/11/28 18:19

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:11:14 +0000, Chris Croughton
<chris@keristor.net> said:

[...]

> > I might say "I wore swimming trunks and not shoes", but
> > "I wore shoes but not socks".

> Hmm, I'm struggling to find many uses of "and not" which I would regard
> as common.  In your example I might say "and no shoes" (there being no
> connection between wearing trunks and wearing shoes) but "trunks and not
> shoes" sounds odd to me, I feel that there is an implication that
> wearing trunks and wearing shoes are incompatible.

I think you're right.  My attempt to devise an example
didn't work out well.

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