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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:44:57 -0500
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Hello Johno
Since i am paranoid about dealers being able to influence the
outcome(by however slight a margin) and mispaying my bets which
i have had a bad experience with here in America, i now only play
my roulette systems at an online casino and i do quite well with
them.
I can't speak for all online casinos but i can vouch for the
one that i regularly play at, that its completely legit with
prompt payouts. One night i won $7000 and they banned me from playing
for a day because they had thought that i was cheating! and had to
review the play log, but afterwards allowed me back in.
I would suggest a try at an online casino with small stakes to test
the waters. And who knows? you might like it better.
johno wrote:
> I would like to share albeit a small part of my experiences with the game of
> Roulette played in down under over the last 5 years. I first started off
> putting lots of chips over the table, you would win some and lose lots,
> sometimes you would win more than your stake, what is the sense in that,
> this is something I see people do all the time. Being a novice I dabbled
> with the Martingale system, ouch, you would think it was working for you,
> then six losses in a row, it was painful. So next I moved on to 2 column's
> and / or 2 dozens out of three, with a mainly trebling the bet sometimes
> doubling after a loss. Thought I was on to a sure thing at 64%. Used a
> very big bankroll and had a fair bit of success. Followed by a lot of big
> losses. Didn't play for some time.
>
> Work out the odds on this sequence: many years ago I was progressive betting
> and had chips on the following even money bets: Red, Even and High (18-36),
> and lost three spins in a row, without the spinner hitting zero. After the
> third loss, he said to his pit boss, maybe I'm being too hard on him. On
> another occasion, some Asian chick hit 10 different numbers in the first
> dozen, while I was backing the other two dozen's.
>
> I have spent years studying the game. Reckon I came up with a great system
> that was basically 75.5-86.5% in my favour, and provides a 12.5% return,
> depending on the percentage, and recovery after a loss, far better in my
> opinion than the two column bet, with a two spin triple up. It was a great
> system, you didn't feel stuck to a table, "the ball must land in this column
> next, bullshit". I have researched the game extensively on the net, I know
> the ball has no memory, can land in 1 column 6, 7 time etc. My system took
> out the equation of the spinner aiming for zero, ball landing in the same
> column etc, all bases were covered.
>
> I did very well, turn $350 into over 5 grand on 2 occasions, could win a
> grand with regularity, was winning 1 or 2 thousand a night, things were
> looking sweet, then bang, nothing. I'm playing a game that gives me odds of
> anything between 75.5-86.5%, can even take it up to 91% but the returns are
> too low for the outlay. Yet now I struggle to get a single win. So what
> changed, well first off the spinners. I play at the Sky City Adelaide, and
> played at the Sky City Auckland. The spinners I was winning against, I don't
> see anymore, these were the ones who did NOT look at the wheel when
> releasing the ball. The ones where I would win 15-18 times on the trot at
> $100 profit per spin. Now I see new spinners, and probability is defied,
> the ball lands 6/7 times in the same column, busting column bettors. All
> new faces, probably brought down from the "member's room". Will hit numbers
> that I have not covered constantly, yet it's 75-86.5% in my favour. I'm a
> big player, and when I arrive at a table, the spinner usually changes soon
> after. Have tried placing chips after the ball is released, but my method
> by this time is well sussed.
>
> This leads me to my point, Roulette is bullshit, spinners aim, pure and
> simple, they practise for hours, use the zero as a marker, and they know the
> amount of rotations it will complete, know the amount of pressure to exert,
> the number of rotations the inside wheel will complete, and so forth, will
> it still be in motion when the ball decides to drop ? After many, many
> weeks of playing, I've picked things up like the pit boss telling a new
> spinner to hit a certain number, "put it on six" which I did not have
> covered, I should of seen it coming, his first spin, he lands in on six.
> On another occasion in Auckland a spinner not being able to contain her
> excitement at aiming for zero, yet hitting 32 when I had $400 on the two
> outside column's, she shouted to her bit boss, "I got it". Taking to a
> ex-spinner who's working the casino's in Asia, confirmed to me that,
> spinners can place the ball accurately, it takes lots of practise, like
> years, but it can be done. I heard the comment that the payoff for the
> spinner, who downunder you can not tip, that if they are quote "good for the
> casino", they get promoted to the "private members" area. A much more
> pleasant environment to work in. While I have never played in the US, so I
> don't know if the same situation exists there, but down-under be under no
> illusion, Roulette is not a game of chance, randomness, when playing with
> big stakes, you are competing against the spinner, pure and simple.
>
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