On 4 Jan 2008 19:29:01 -0600, TonyCamonte <scar@face.com> wrote:
>news:jgktn3lb2v0tnr1t22er3irbre877oi9cp@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:38:35 GMT, HMS Victor Victorian
>> <VictorVictorianREMOVE@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>><gangster@hell-flame-wars.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:06:22 GMT, HMS Victor Victorian
>>>><VictorVictorianREMOVE@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:45:29 +0000 (UTC), Frogbutt
>>>>><frog@pamboisinsane.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>news:5u77esF1gc4j8U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Frogbutt" <frog@pamboisinsane.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Xns9A1AE49E5BD4fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck@207.14.116.130...
>>>>>>>> "dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:5u5fq6F1f36m8U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>> "Frogbutt" <frog@pamboisinsane.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:Xns9A1AA05A8F0F7fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck@207.14.116.130...
>>>>>>>>>> Brian Mailman <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:13nq5jdvvh6bb1 @news.supernews.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Six-teen tons of greas-y grim-y pedo guts....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's about what's in alt.fan.utb.naughty-boy right now. The
>>>>>>>>>> tards saw the word "boy" in the group name and decided it was
>>>>>>>>>> a kiddie porn froup.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeez! Good thing they didn't know about the game-boy group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doofus, you dumbfuck. That was the only group with the word
>>>>>>>> "boy" in the name that the idiots hadn't found. Now there's
>>>>>>>> going to be 10,000 pictures of naked little boys in it by this
>>>>>>>> time tomorrow and it's all your fucking falt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uh, sorry, wasn't thinking straight. All that imported beer, ya
>>>>>>> know...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They had no idea what it really is. The crazy thing is that
>>>>>>>>>> most of the froups they've been using for so long are dead.
>>>>>>>>>> They had no reason to start spamming a new one. And now
>>>>>>>>>> they're going to pay the price for trying to take one of our
>>>>>>>>>> froups.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Glad I'm not them...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know if you watched the first war, the one that started
>>>>>>>> in alt.fan.air some years back. A bunch of hackers got in on
>>>>>>>> that one and many pedos went away and never came back. It only
>>>>>>>> ended when some people you don't want to fuck with asked us to
>>>>>>>> step out while they did their thing. We did what we were asked
>>>>>>>> to do and more pedos went away and never came back. Nobody
>>>>>>>> wants a repeat of that one. It was bad. We came kind of close
>>>>>>>> about three years ago though. A brain dead pedo called Rolex the
>>>>>>>> Retard tried to take a group that's part of the flonk. They
>>>>>>>> could have ended it with no problem. All they had to do was
>>>>>>>> leave, but they decided to fight for it and more of them went
>>>>>>>> away and never came back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting. Hypothetically, what sort of "things" would a
>>>>>>> hypothetical hacker do to a hypothetical pedo in one of those
>>>>>>> hypothetical groups? I'm assuming it'd be way above the average
>>>>>>> guys pay-grade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You would assume correctly. The pedos never knew what they were
>>>>>>getting hit with. The truth is, I didn't know either though. I
>>>>>>never knew who the hackers were or how they were doing it. I only
>>>>>>had contact with one or two of them, and that was through a third
>>>>>>party and it was only once or twice in that entire year the first
>>>>>>one lasted. If they had needed to get in touch with me I'm sure
>>>>>>they could have at any time and with no problem. They probably
>>>>>>could have called me on the phone. They were good enough that I'm
>>>>>>sure they knew all my personal information or could have easily
>>>>>>gotten it within a few minutes. Everybody in that war had a roll
>>>>>>to play and everyone did their job well. What you saw on usenet
>>>>>>was only a small part of it. It was really a very sophisticated
>>>>>>operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To understand that war you also need to understand usenet pedos.
>>>>>>Most pedos hide on the net and can be very hard to find. Those
>>>>>>pedos know how the net works and would never bother with usenet.
>>>>>>They know it's just too easy to get caught here. The ones who do
>>>>>>come to usenet are the least sophisticated of all the pedos. They
>>>>>>don't understand usenet, servers, the internet, or computers. They
>>>>>>know just enough to get on usenet and upload or download pictures,
>>>>>>and that's all they know. If you watch their groups you'll see
>>>>>>that many of them are too stupid to even figure that out. They're
>>>>>>forever asking how to post or download. There are also three
>>>>>>different levels of pedos on usenet. the smartest are those that
>>>>>>download and never post, not even a request. It's impossible
>>>>>>to know how many of those are out there, but I suspect that most of
>>>>>>the pedos who come to usenet fit into that category. They only get
>>>>>>caught if they take their computer in for work or if their computer
>>>>>>is searched by police for some reason. The next level are the ones
>>>>>>that won't post, but who ask the posters to post kp for them.
>>>>>>Some of those who request are no doubt pedos, but there are other
>>>>>>reasons why a person would ask a poster to post something and I
>>>>>>think you can figure out a few of those reasons. The last level
>>>>>>are the posters themselves. These are people who feel some strange
>>>>>>need to post the stuff. I don't understand them at all. They
>>>>>>would not run out onto a busy freeway, but they will post the
>>>>>>most vile pictures and movies of kids being abused to usenet where
>>>>>>they are sure to get caught. It must have something to do with a
>>>>>>need for approval, even if that approval comes from a bunch of
>>>>>>child molesters and even if that approval will cost them their
>>>>>>freedom.
>>>>>
>>>>>A very interesting, thoughtful and well-written dissertation,
>>>>>Frogbutt!
>>>>>
>>>>>Kudos to you, oh wise sage!
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course, you don't need to ASSUME that the material posted is
>>>>>child pornography and therefore illegal in most venues, for unlike
>>>>>brilliant trolls such as SteviePuss, you can actually SEE them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Not that you would download CP, certainly!
>>>>>
>>>>>Well! No fear of that here my dear friend. For anything posted at
>>>>>the Galleries is not illegal and under any Western jurisdiction
>>>>>cannot be construed as child pornography.
>>>>>
>>>>Really? So then there's no need for you to be anonymous, is there?
>>>>Why not just host them on a website rather than try to hide in some
>>>>obscure Usenet group? Oh wait....I know.....you're fulla shit.
>>>>
>>>>>Even by you, provided you have a modecum of legal knowledge. As for
>>>>>the mysterious hackers ... I think they should be concerned about
>>>>>the blatant illegality of their own actions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Two points to conclude.
>>>>>
>>>>>First, the Galleries came here originally to insult the troll
>>>>>Naughty Boy, aka Charlie, aka El Trauco, aka you, dear Froggie.
>>>>>Apparently the effort succeeded. Everything since then has been
>>>>>gravey.
>>>>>
>>>>>Second, please stop posting pornography to the group. As far as I
>>>>>can determine, you are the only one who does post pornography.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can do better.
>>>>>
>>>>>VV
>>>>>God Save Her Majesty the Queen.
>>>>>God Preserve the Prince of Wales.
>>>>>Rule Britannia!
>>>
>>>Very simple
>>>Anonymity protects people like me from people like you, Mr. "Boston
>>>Blackie"
>>>
>> What do you think you have to fear from me? If everything is legal
>> and all, I'm not stupid enough to waste my time with the likes of you.
>>
>> I note that you ducked the other question. Of course, that and the
>> answer you did provide give me reason to speculate that you're not
>> being exactly honest.
>>
>> Since I'm not new to all of this, I'm not going to bother to download
>> any of this /legal/ stuff you put,up, but I'm sure that I'll
>> eventually be able to draw a correct conclusion by other means.
>
>
>is that easy to judge a person, mr blackie? you'll have to make a bigger
>effort to do that
Care to enlightment me on how much effort is required? Nothing that
I've posted indicates that I'm jumping to any huge conclusions just
yet. Victor seems to have pounced upon Frogbutt's post and made some
assertions that I found curious and I asked some questions based upon
his comments. It was he that brought up the whole legal/illegal
argument and that aroused my curiousity as to why it was mentioned at
all. A few years back, I posted thousands of binaries in a different
group and that discussion never arose simply because there was no fine
line that was being walked. I've no idea how far back GUBA goes, but
if archives go back 3-4 years you can see what I posted under the nick
of BBlacloe.
--
mhm 29x8
"Enemy to those who make him an enemy. Friend to those who have no
friend."
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