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Subject: Re: Biblical prophecy - Ladies please...
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Uzytkownik "Shez" <shez@oldcity.f2s.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:0ccxq4GRKQw$EwD5@oldcity.f2s.com...
> In article <bpqd7q$o04$1@news.onet.pl>, Piorokrat
> <piorokrat@autograf.pl> writes
> >
> >Uzytkownik "Nevermore" <burned@thestake.net> napisal w wiadomosci
> >news:20031123002923658-0500@news.valley.net...
> >> In <bpngrl$fin$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl> Uncle Davey wrote:
> >> >
> >> > news:bpnfmh$1qhu5f$1@ID-140581.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> >> "Piorokrat" tries the bait 'n switch:
> >> >> > "Zsarnok" wrote:
> >> >> > > Nevermore wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > <snip>
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > We're Witches. We haven't done anything wrong. Why would we
> >> >> > > > need salvation - free or otherwise? Why would we need to
> >> >> > > > believe in something that doesn't appear to produce results
> >> >> > > > when we do things
> >> >> that
> >> >> > > > produce tangible results whether we lack faith in them or not?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Nevermore
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Yeah. What Nevermore said. <w>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Zsarnok
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So if you for example cast a spell, you achieve what you want
> >> >> > whether
> >> > you
> >> >> > even believe in it or not?
> >> >> >
> >> >> Is that what Nevermore stated, ye of blind faith?
> >> >> Do you actually expect to have _magic_ explained to you?
> >> >> Bwahahaha.
> >> >>
> >> >> > That's handy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> It's also sophist of you, Davie.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Uncle Davey, you're all pretty rich, then?
> >> >> >
> >> >> Prayed for gold and gotten it, Davie?
> >> >> Depends on what you mean by "rich" and what
> >> >> Nevermore may mean by "tangible results" doesn't
> >> >> it? Next, you'll be asking 'what tangible results', eh?
> >> >> Or, will you try to dodge predictablilty and take
> >> >> another tack - like not replying to this post? Heh.
> >> >>
> >> >> T.N.
> >> >
> >> > You see, Trevor, I don't believe that God wants me to be rich without
> >> > working for it. Why would He have given me the earnings potential for
> >> > it only to go to waste after a lottery win?
> >> >
> >> > That means, I couldn't pray for gold with any faith.
> >> >
> >> > I'd know I was asking amiss.
> >> >
> >> > But from what Nevermore said, what she does produces results whether
> >> > or not she lacks faith in them. Hence, if I believed that, I could
> >> > make a wealth charm, I could bury the talisman of Mercury under my
> >> > office, and bingo, early retirement, even though I don't believe in
> >> > that stuff.
> >> >
> >> > Uncle Davey, I don't think I've extrapolated this point illogically.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Davey, for the record, I'm a guy (and yes, I'm still a Witch not a
> >> wizard).
> >
> >I don't get it. How can you be a guy and a witch. Girl ones are witches,
boy
> >ones are wizards. Every kid knows that.
> >
> >So how can you tell me you're a witch and a guy at the same time?
> >
> >> I'm also pretty well off but there is little point in bending magick to
> >> making money when you can use what is inherent in magick to skip right
> >> over the cash and get the things which cash can buy (and many more
> >> things it can't).
> >
> >"I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love"?
> >
> >>
> >> You still haven't addressed my real question which was simply this -
why
> >> would witches need salvation if we haven't done anything wrong?
> >>
> >> Nevermore (proud owner of some of the most environmentally damaging and
> >> expensive vehicles on this planet)
> >
> >I drive a Grand Cherokee myself, which is a gas guzzler.
> >
> >You ask what we have done wrong, I would put it in to one sentence.
> >We have failed to give God the glory due unto his name.
> >That's all humankind, witches and wizards and muggles as well.
> >
> >Uncle Davey
> >
> >
> >
> Witchcraft is the art and craft of magick,
> a witch is a magick user.
> >
>
> --
> Shez shez@oldcity.f2s.com
So what is a wizard, then?
Uncle Davey
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