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From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
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Subject: Re: Hi Davey
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 03:45:07 +0100
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> Uncle Davey wrote:
> > Uzytkownik <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> > news:1104741408.314216.10300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> Jason Gastrich wrote:
> >>> Davey,
> >>>
> >>> Did you have a good weekend?
> >
> > It wasn't that magnificent, thanks. I had to go to Tczew on Sunday
> > for an inventory count, and the road wasn't fantastic, but thanks for
> > asking.
> >
> >>>
> >>> What's new?
> >
> > Not much. Lots of work to do.
> >
> >>
> >> Davey posted and said he was leaving the groups for a bit, Jason.
> >
> > I didn't last long.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm still gonna be posting hardly anything. No time.
> >
> >>
> >> I wonder what he'll think of
> >> http://www.geocities.com/hdsienkiewicz/JG_DOC_A.jpg ?
> >> And isn't email a better place for chit-chat?
> >>
> >
> > I'll tell you you what I think, David, I think it was a court error.
> >
> > In my experience court clerks make a lot of errors, after all, who's
> > gonna sue 'em? I remember the patience I had to have with them in my
> > limited experience.
> >
> > I haven't read enough yet since getting back from my inventory count
> > attendances all over this country to know whether Jason says it is a
> > court error, but I simply do not believe he would have been dumb
> > enough to state 200 USD if he knew very well you could get hold of
> > something that said 2000 USD.
> >
> > Uncle Davey
>
> Wow, Davey hit the nail on the head. This is exactly right.
>
> God bless,
> Jason
I have the odd bit of discernment here and there as you know, and now I have
a little message for you, which you are at liberty to take on or not
depending on whether the Spirit confirms these words to you.
David Sienkiewicz is not so far gone as to forge changes to documents. This
is something he will not do, according to my reading of him, nevertheless he
is so prejudiced against the evangelical side that he automatically assumes
some blame on your part when the document says something other than what you
expected it to.
My reading of the way Durango Bill has added this to his site is that he
actually knows very well that it was a court error, and is slagging you off
for saying 'no' when you I dare say were fairly sure that the note said
200USD because you hadn't noticed that it came back with an error on saying
2000 USD. This has been taken in a recent post by Sienkiewicz to mean that
Bill also thinks you were lying about the 200USD, but here again he shows
his prejudice, as the way Bill phrases it gives the game away that he knew
it was only an oversight on your part. Otherwise he would have stressed the
matter differently.
David's got you lumped in with the Benny Hinns and their ilk, which is a
great pity for two reasons, firstly because you are not of their ilk, and
are truly God's saved child, even with all your faults - no bigger than mine
I hasten to add - and this I know because it takes an experienced person
from within Evangelical Christianity to discern the difference, they cannot.
That is why you have to be more careful in the way some things are
presented. You have the right, as someone who has dedicated a full-time
level of work to evangelism, to be supported in your cost of living by other
believers, and this is absolutely no different to the priests of catholicism
and the vicars of anglicanism that they would not give a second thought to
and whom they do not attack as fraudulent because they live from the gifts
of believers. They are sensitive about it, my suggestion is that you are
simply up front about the fact that you do live from the love gifts of God's
people in the same way as other full time Christian workers do, and be a bit
careful with the way you present certain things that help you make a living.
You can see how far they go to misunderstand this and behave as though you
were building marble halls on the backs of these donations, rather than them
being an essential part of any full-time ministry, and no different to the
money raising that goes on in any church that has full-time ministers.
The second reason why it's a pity is that if all this energy were being
given by David Sienkiewicz in exposing real religious charlatans, then you
and I would probably be among the first to applaud it. It's true that we are
only promised that the sheep and the goats in the Church are separated at
the end of time, but the occasional exposure of a wolf in sheep's clothing
here and there - even by a non-Christian, is something I would not get in
the way of. As it is he is like someone pulling at your fleece, and although
it doesn't come off whenever there is a cry of pain from the sheep he thinks
is suspect he says "hmnn. that sounded a bit wolfy, that did, better yank
some more". The more he tugs away at that fleece, and even some of the hairs
come of in his hand, the more he thinks he is about to get the fleece off
and reveal the bristly grey lupine coat beneath, but all he is doing is
confirming his prejudices. That is, until they fall, which, God willing,
they will, and he will see himself an imperfect man fighting another
imperfect man for the simple reason that this other imperfect man has been
received by God through Christ.
Maybe this is the way God is calling him. Maybe he has to go through this
wrestling match with you in order to get a blessing. Israel was always a
wrestler, and he will not let you go unless God bless him, even if it means
a metaphorical wound on the thigh. This is of course not good news for you
as the one who gets to play the role of the angel in that Genesis 32
scenario, but in the end if you can turn his trying to cause you a penalty
into you causing him a Peniel, then everyone is blessed in the end. That's
why I think it may have been hasty for you to promise not to speak to him.
He needs mercy and love, in the end, like every sinner. And the gospel is as
we read to the Jew first and then to the Greek. It's always a priviledge to
be able to take God's own truth to God's own people. I think that, hard as
it is, you're gonna need to engage him. My "prophesy", if you wanna call it
that, is that David Sienkiewicz is actually in the Elect, but will only
realise that against his will and will only be brought to the Mercy Seat
a-kickin' and a-scratchin' and a-fleece-pullin'. Ignoring him isn't gonna do
it. If you go fishing, there's no point in cutting your line when there's a
marlin on the end of it. You've gotta reel that big fish in. With a really
big fish it can take other fishermen to hold the rod with you and stop it
getting yanked out of your hands, and I can do that bit, but it's your fish.
It's gonna take a lot of prayer, a lot of time, a lot of ego-bruising, a lot
of re-adjustment of style, a lot of pain. But it's gonna be worth it,
because that old Jew, as he calls himself, is gonna get born again. And
there's gonna be rejoicing in heaven. Amen.
Uncle Davey
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