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From: Chris Thompson <cthompson@TAKEOUTbmcc.cuny.edu>
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Subject: Re: Taking My Leave
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:47:15 +0000 (UTC)
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"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in news:cp2usd$2e6$0@pita.alt.net:
>
> news:Xns95B758BFDA2D4erx99a24zbatTAKEOUTh@128.228.100.230...
>> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in
>> news:cp15j7$nq9$0@pita.alt.net:
>>
>> >
>> > news:54522494.0412052026.515b046d@posting.google.com...
>> >> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>> > news:<cp00lm$hhd$0@pita.alt.net>...
>> >> > news:54522494.0412051050.573e05a5@posting.google.com...
>> >> > > "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:<cov27b$kfk$0@pita.alt.net>...
>> >> > > > <nospamplease.tom.mcclelland@ntlworld.com>
>> >> > > > > Uncle Davey wrote:
>> >> > > > > > news:6c840ad4.0412041724.75c65d37@posting.google.com...
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >>>Yes, but it's code for non new age people.
>> >> > > > > >>>
>> >> > > > > >>>There are a lot of things encoded in J K Rowling's
>> >> > > > > >>>unfinished
>> >> > heptology.
>> >> > > > > >>>
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >>And you know this how?
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > The people on alt.pagan had a discussion with me about
>> >> > > > > > it.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > There are a lot of witches and wizards on there,
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Uh, Davey, there is no such thing as a real witch or
>> >> > > > > wizard. Those
>> > are
>> >> > > > > stories to entertain and frighten and control.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > and they specialise in this
>> >> > > > > > kind of symbolry.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > You can always go there and ask them whether the aspects
>> >> > > > > > of J.
>> > K.
>> >> > Rowling
>> >> > > > > > encode genuine occult matters or whether she's just
>> >> > > > > > mucking
>> > around.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Rowling cannot encode "genuine occult matters" because
>> >> > > > > there
>> > aren't
>> >> > any.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Not all will agree, but there seems to be a body of
>> >> > > > > > opinion
>> > among
>> >> > them
>> >> > that
>> >> > > > > > the series encodes a lot of stuff for those in the know.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > There are always a few complete idiots who will believe
>> >> > > > > anything
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Not being an occult practitioner myself, and not
>> >> > > > > > intending to
>> > become
>> >> > one
>> >> > if
>> >> > > > > > I can help it, I have to bow to their <cough> superior
>> >> > > > > > wisdom.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > You won't manage to become one if you try, because no-one
>> >> > > > > can.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Tom
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > So much the better, because I never liked that stuff.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Whether it exists, or whether it doesn't exist, they still
>> >> > > > think
>> > Rowling
>> >> > is
>> >> > > > pretty much in the know.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Davy, you are aware, I assume, that the majority of the
>> >> > > "occult secrets" believed in by neo-pagans are derived from
>> >> > > reading fantasy fiction; correct? The fact that people on
>> >> > > neopagan froups think that J.K. Rowling is "in the know" is
>> >> > > not evidence for the factuality of any of her stories, it is
>> >> > > evidence that the neo-pagans borrowed ideas either directly
>> >> > > from the HP novels or indirectly, from the same sources that
>> >> > > inspired the details of those novels. IOW, it is not that
>> >> > > Rowling is knowledgable about neo-paganism (although she may
>> >> > > be), rather, neo-pagans are knowledgable about Rowling's
>> >> > > fiction.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > It's analogous to the people who dress up as Klingons. They
>> >> > > might honestly believe that the people who wrote Star Trek
>> >> > > were "on to something", but it was Star Trek that inspired
>> >> > > them to think that there was something to be on to in the
>> >> > > first place. Your causal arrow is pointing the wrong way.
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not assigning any causalities.
>> >> >
>> >> > Uncle Davey, hth.
>> >>
>> >> Then I shall give you the benefit of the doubt and tell you that
>> >> your words in this thread, as quoted above, are at best
>> >> misleading.
>> >>
>> >
>> > All right then.
>> >
>> > Uncle Davey
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> And none of your weasling has yet provided any justification for
>> using derogatory terms for Muslims, which is what started the whole
>> thing, and which you neatly deflected into another topic.
>>
>
> I'll await your indignance next time someone uses the word 'Fundy'
> then, shall I?
>
> Uncle Davey
What's wrong with referring to a large body of water in Canada?
--
Chris
aa#2186
Black helicopter mind-control-ray door-gunner
=====
"We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and
then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so
as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry
on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that
sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually
on a battlefield." --George Orwell, 1946, "Under Your Nose"
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