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From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
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Subject: Re: Another Augustine quotation
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 07:59:13 +0000 (UTC)
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> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> news:cp06k6$s5v$0@pita.alt.net...
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> > > Uncle Davey wrote:
> > >
> > > > news:cov1r0024b8@drn.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > >> In Augustine's book "De Libero Arbitrario" (which is mostly about
> > > >>the problem of evil and free will) he spends chapter 21 of book 3
> > > >>talking about the origin of a human's soul. He mentions four
> > > >>different theories, and says that he has no strong evidence for
> > > >>any of them. He then goes on to say that it is not a matter of
> > > >>importance for the Christian:
> > > >>
> > > >>"So what does it matter to me if I do not know when I began to
exist,
> > > >>since I know that I exist now, and I do not despair of existing in
the
> > > >>future? There is no great harm done if I have false beliefs about
the
> > > >
> > > > past,
> > > >
> > > >>since the past is of no concern to me; I direct my course toward
what
> I
> > am
> > > >>going to be, guided by the mercy of my Creator."
> > > >>
> > > >>from page 113 of
> > > >>
> > > >>Augustine: On Free Choice of the Will
> > > >>translated by Thomas Williams
> > > >>Indianapolis: Hackett Publishing, 1993
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am sure there is a certain wisdom in these words and that's why I
> have
> > > > never said here that you have to believe in a literal six days to be
> > saved.
> > > >
> > > > I happen to believe them, and in the Flood and Babel and a lot of
> other
> > > > stuff but I am not dogmatic about them.
> > > >
> > > Only dogma can make you believe in those things, against the
background
> > > of the overwhelming evidence that they did not happen.
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> > Not really. To me there is a structure of thought and internal
> corroboration
> > that makes the whole of my system which is coherent to me, and answers
> > questions that other systems cannot to my satisfaction.
> >
> > Uncle Davey
> >
> >
> >
>
> So you are saying that you do not care wether something is real or
not....as
> long as you get a warm fuzzy feeling ?
>
No, the evolutionist system is the one that gives the warm, fuzzy feelings.
What I believe makes you left outside alone.
It's not okay, I don't feel safe, I need to ... pray.
Uncle Davey
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