"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message news:<c5hg6k$nfg$0@pita.alt.net>...
> > "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> news:<c5gdok$5i3$0@pita.alt.net>...
> >
> > <snip for brevity>
> >
> > Ok, big D:
> >
> > >
> > > Let's take them one at a time. First let us have your analysis as an
> expert
> > > on evidence of the following:
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/26uq9
> >
> > Coincidence.
> >
> > > I've got quite a few more where that came from. You'll see the evidence
> > > mounting up.
> >
> > Any other evidence you have will be coincidences.
> >
> > > "Frank" can also cough at any time, saving a bit of face for his
> > > puppeteeress, or just bow to the inevitable...
> >
> > I have nothing to cough. I bow only to Christ, and not to Gastrich or
> > any other human and certainly not to you.
> >
> > > And remember, this person came to me with the serious offer, "take
> yourself
> > > off usenet. and I'll do the same".
> >
> > The offer stands. It would do you good to take it, as this path is a
> > dead end for you. The only one at the end of it is me.
> >
> > > Frank would have reverted back to Ninure, and I daresay he was only
> called
> > > into existence for that in the first place, with his "call to minister
> to
> > > Christians in jeopardy".
> >
> > I am not Ninure, and Ninure is not me. I know not what I was called
> > into existence for, any more than you do of yourself. But I do know I
> > am led to address people who assert their Christianity and yet live in
> > such an unrighteous way as to bring condemnation on the faith, as you
> > have done and continue to do.
> >
> > >
> > > That was getting me to do something under false pretenses wasn't it Big
> G?
> >
> > Nope. The offer is legit, I am legit, and you are accusing me falsely
> > as you writhe before the demon you've allowed to set up shop in you.
> > Christ gave you a plain roadmap, in the Gospels of Matthew (5:30 &
> > 18:8) and Mark (9:43 & 45), to keep you from jeopardy. AFAICT, you are
> > hell-bent to ignore him.
> >
> > > You actually do have integrity, I reckon. Let's hear you give voice to
> your
> > > pitbull, lover of truth and fairness reaction to this.
> >
> > I invite anyone of integrity to examine the facts. I do not fear being
> > bitten by them. Read on.
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, Google on how often Ninure (RainbowChristiannohate@hotmail.com)
> uses
> > > the term "in jeopardy" and compare to the frequent use of that term by
> > > "Frank" and compare that to its usual frequency in the English language.
> > > That's the next piece of evidence.
> >
> > What would be the correct term to use to describe the state of a
> > Christian who profanes the Word of God as you do? Of course you will
> > find the frequency greater in my posts in comparison to everyday
> > conversation. It's why I de-lurked. On the other hand, I suspect
> > anywhere you find Christians discussing how to approach bretheren who
> > are in peril you will find a similar frequency. Try it. Just for yuks.
> >
> > > Then please note that there are no Ninure posts between March 8 and
> April
> > > 12th,
> >
> > A simple Google search turned up, by my manual count, 43 Ninure posts
> > from April 1 to April 11 alone. Try again.
> >
> > and April 12th was the time I outed her, and also the date that
> > > Pericope offered me a joint usenet suicide pact, and was therfore
> probably
> > > planning to revert to source persona anyway.
> >
> > My offer to help you predated your false assertion. It is legit, and
> > it stands.
> >
> > Let's review:
> > On April 5, I suggested that "...if one's public behavior brings
> > significant levels of condemnation from both believers and
> > unbelievers, perhaps
> > one should consider 'cutting off' that hand and withdrawing from
> > public forums until one can behave in a righteous way..."
> >
> > On the April I, I tried again: "**You should, according to the book
> > you idolize, cut off both your hands rather than type what you do.**
> > Give up Usenet, or give up Genesis--or wallow in your inconsistency
> > and continue to be a stumbling block for your bretheren."
> >
> > Then, when you continued to resist my earnest suggestions, I posted
> > the initial offer to join you in withdrawing from Usenetg if it would
> > help persuade you.
> >
> > Note that my posts come from Google, which has an average 3-9 hour
> > posting delay. If my post hit at 06:46:25AM PST on the 12th, and it
> > didn't make it up to Google for at least 3-9 hours, that means I
> > posted it (at the latest) between 9:45PM PST on the 11th and 3:45AM
> > PST on the 12th. In point of fact, I submitted it Saturday night.
> >
> > When did you first post your first false assertion about me being a
> > Ninure puppet? As far as I can see, it was *after* my offer.
> >
> > Please note it was pretty late
> > > on April 12th my time when I checked the archive, and by that time there
> > > were no Ninure posts on April 12th. It was probably later on that day
> your
> > > time. Check back and please prove me wrong. I am confident of my
> assertion,
> > > but I'll eat crow to Ninure and Frank if this isn't one of those times
> when
> > > we can say "Bingo!" "gotcha!" and words to that effect.
> >
> > A simple Google search shows three Ninure posts on April 12:
> >
> > Re: Names of God
> > In article <c4rfo4$p08$1@nikalinux.nikaconsulting.net>, vdls@aol.com
> > (VDLS)
> > wrote: -I have heard God referred to as Jehovah Nissi, Jirah. Shalom
> > and -others.....where can I find a list of all of the names and thier
> > meanings? ...
> > soc.religion.christian.bible-study - Apr 12, 2004 by Ninure Saunders -
> > View Thread (6 articles)
> >
> > (~) Bible Readings for Sunday April 18
> > (~) Bible Readings for Sunday April 18 Second Sunday of Easter Acts
> > 5:12a, 17-22,25-29 or Job 42:1-6 Revelation 1:(1-8)9-19 or Acts
> > 5:12a,17-22,25-29 John 20:19-31 The First Lesson Acts
> > 5:12a,17-22,25-29 Now many signs and wonders were done among ...
> > soc.religion.christian.bible-study - Apr 12, 2004 by Ninure Saunders -
> > View Thread (1 article)
> >
> > Re: Atheist Hostility Toward's "The Passion of the Christ"
> > In article <9ioec.10129$d8.7553@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>,
> > odysseus_7@hotmail.com (Odysseus) wrote: -Hello, - -I thought you
> > might be interested in a summary of the secular attack-on Gibson's
> > great movie: http://www.supportmelgibson.com/ As -Christians ...
> > soc.religion.christian - Apr 12, 2004 by Ninure Saunders - View Thread
> > (3 articles)
> >
> > *Anyone* can confirm this.
> >
> > How do you like your crow cooked, Davey?
> > --Half-baked, like your evidence?
> > --Or raw, like your language?
> >
> > > Than please note that while he was with us, "Frank" had similar posting
> > > volumes to those of Ninure. A fact that can also be borne out by Google.
> >
> > I'm still with you, and my posting volumes are a function of my level
> > of interest and my availability. Not my identity.
> >
> > > This is as good as the evidence that had me pegged as Constance
> Vigilant.
> >
> > No, it isn't. I didn't sign any posts "- Ninure".
> >
> > I
> > > made the blunder of not coughing at that stage and brazening it out.
> Very
> > > bad of me, never again. I don't advise Ninure to put off coughing until
> the
> > > chunk of credibility I lost then flies out of her window too.
> >
> > I don't know if Ninure has anything to cough about, as (contrary to
> > your failed assertion) I do not speak for her. But I haven't caught
> > your contance cold, and therefore have no reason to cough.
> >
> > >
> > > Uncle Davey
> >
> > Uncle Doofus is more like it. That's poor research, Davey. Hope you're
> > a better accountant than you are a detective. ;-) Or Christian,
> > apparently. Or Christian Detective. Or whatever you are today.
> >
> > Now, please do the right thing and apologize for questioning my
> > integrity.
> >
> > - F.
> >
>
> Have the integrity to tell me who you were prior to 8 March, because you're
> no newbie.
I repeat: Usenet lurking off and on since '95, lurking in T.O. since
'03, and have never posted to Usenet before March '03. I'll accept
your refusal to accept my newbie poster status as a compliment, as my
testing and etc. were the sensible thing to do if I were to de-lurk
and establish credibility from the get go, something that's clearly
more important to me than to you.
When I am gone, you will come back in another form.
No, I will not. You have only my word on it, as I only have yours.
You have only
> been here since 8 March. That is no fair exchange for 6 years. I could pact
> with Ninure, because she has a big usenet franchise, but if you are not
> Ninure, then you are offering a dabbling in Usenet for a few weeks under an
> obviously assumed name against a long term hobby and habit?
It is not you and I who are trading; it is you, trading your sin for
your soul; I'm just willing to take that walk with you if it helps.
Your hobby and habit are taking you to hell, and you know it. If you
care for your soul, you'll do it with *or* without me.
If not, the tell
> us who you usually are in Usenet. Only then can I agree to your suicide
> pact.
<sigh.> First, I am and have always been just me. Second, It's not a
suicide pact. If and when you are sure you can post without bringing
further condemnation on the faith, you may find yourself welcomed back
by those who see the good in you and want it to triumph. I do not
propose that you stay away forever--unless you *never* develop the
capacity to refrain from unrighteous public behavior. In fact, I do
not require anything of you; it's the Gospels of Matthew and Mark that
are compelling you, not me. I make the offer in the apparently vain
hope that I might assist you in heeding them.
> You remembered detail about the CV outing I had even forgotten. Who were you
> then?
I was not posting then at all.
>
> I may be up for a pact but a sock does not equal a mother ship. If you are
> sincere about helping me, you need to gain my trust. You have NOT repeat NOT
> been on Usenet only since 8th March. Don't bullshit me, periscope man, or
> woman or whatever you are.
>
> Uncle Davey
I am not a sock; I am an individual, as are you. You have only my word
to trust; it will have to suffice. I HAVE repeat HAVE only posted to
Usenet on and subsequent to March 2 of this year.
No bullshit. Offer stands. Be a full human, and choose.
- F.
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