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From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
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Subject: Re: Position statement - Frank Pericope was no better than Ninure'speriscope.
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:20:22 +0000 (UTC)
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> Uncle Davey wrote:
>
> >
> >>"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:<c5gdok$5i3$0@pita.alt.net>...
> >
> >><snip for brevity>
> >>
> >>Ok, big D:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Let's take them one at a time. First let us have your analysis as an
> >
> > expert
> >
> >>>on evidence of the following:
> >>>
> >>>http://tinyurl.com/26uq9
> >>
> >>Coincidence.
> >>
> >>
> >>>I've got quite a few more where that came from. You'll see the evidence
> >>>mounting up.
> >>
> >>Any other evidence you have will be coincidences.
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Frank" can also cough at any time, saving a bit of face for his
> >>>puppeteeress, or just bow to the inevitable...
> >>
> >>I have nothing to cough. I bow only to Christ, and not to Gastrich or
> >>any other human and certainly not to you.
> >>
> >>
> >>>And remember, this person came to me with the serious offer, "take
> >
> > yourself
> >
> >>>off usenet. and I'll do the same".
> >>
> >>The offer stands. It would do you good to take it, as this path is a
> >>dead end for you. The only one at the end of it is me.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Frank would have reverted back to Ninure, and I daresay he was only
> >
> > called
> >
> >>>into existence for that in the first place, with his "call to minister
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>Christians in jeopardy".
> >>
> >>I am not Ninure, and Ninure is not me. I know not what I was called
> >>into existence for, any more than you do of yourself. But I do know I
> >>am led to address people who assert their Christianity and yet live in
> >>such an unrighteous way as to bring condemnation on the faith, as you
> >>have done and continue to do.
> >>
> >>
> >>>That was getting me to do something under false pretenses wasn't it Big
> >
> > G?
> >
> >>Nope. The offer is legit, I am legit, and you are accusing me falsely
> >>as you writhe before the demon you've allowed to set up shop in you.
> >>Christ gave you a plain roadmap, in the Gospels of Matthew (5:30 &
> >>18:8) and Mark (9:43 & 45), to keep you from jeopardy. AFAICT, you are
> >>hell-bent to ignore him.
> >>
> >>
> >>>You actually do have integrity, I reckon. Let's hear you give voice to
> >
> > your
> >
> >>>pitbull, lover of truth and fairness reaction to this.
> >>
> >>I invite anyone of integrity to examine the facts. I do not fear being
> >>bitten by them. Read on.
> >>
> >>
> >>>BTW, Google on how often Ninure (RainbowChristiannohate@hotmail.com)
> >
> > uses
> >
> >>>the term "in jeopardy" and compare to the frequent use of that term by
> >>>"Frank" and compare that to its usual frequency in the English
language.
> >>>That's the next piece of evidence.
> >>
> >>What would be the correct term to use to describe the state of a
> >>Christian who profanes the Word of God as you do? Of course you will
> >>find the frequency greater in my posts in comparison to everyday
> >>conversation. It's why I de-lurked. On the other hand, I suspect
> >>anywhere you find Christians discussing how to approach bretheren who
> >>are in peril you will find a similar frequency. Try it. Just for yuks.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Then please note that there are no Ninure posts between March 8 and
> >
> > April
> >
> >>>12th,
> >>
> >>A simple Google search turned up, by my manual count, 43 Ninure posts
> >>from April 1 to April 11 alone. Try again.
> >>
> >>and April 12th was the time I outed her, and also the date that
> >>
> >>>Pericope offered me a joint usenet suicide pact, and was therfore
> >
> > probably
> >
> >>>planning to revert to source persona anyway.
> >>
> >>My offer to help you predated your false assertion. It is legit, and
> >>it stands.
> >>
> >>Let's review:
> >>On April 5, I suggested that "...if one's public behavior brings
> >>significant levels of condemnation from both believers and
> >>unbelievers, perhaps
> >>one should consider 'cutting off' that hand and withdrawing from
> >>public forums until one can behave in a righteous way..."
> >>
> >>On the April I, I tried again: "**You should, according to the book
> >>you idolize, cut off both your hands rather than type what you do.**
> >>Give up Usenet, or give up Genesis--or wallow in your inconsistency
> >>and continue to be a stumbling block for your bretheren."
> >>
> >>Then, when you continued to resist my earnest suggestions, I posted
> >>the initial offer to join you in withdrawing from Usenetg if it would
> >>help persuade you.
> >>
> >>Note that my posts come from Google, which has an average 3-9 hour
> >>posting delay. If my post hit at 06:46:25AM PST on the 12th, and it
> >>didn't make it up to Google for at least 3-9 hours, that means I
> >>posted it (at the latest) between 9:45PM PST on the 11th and 3:45AM
> >>PST on the 12th. In point of fact, I submitted it Saturday night.
> >>
> >>When did you first post your first false assertion about me being a
> >>Ninure puppet? As far as I can see, it was *after* my offer.
> >>
> >>Please note it was pretty late
> >>
> >>>on April 12th my time when I checked the archive, and by that time
there
> >>>were no Ninure posts on April 12th. It was probably later on that day
> >
> > your
> >
> >>>time. Check back and please prove me wrong. I am confident of my
> >
> > assertion,
> >
> >>>but I'll eat crow to Ninure and Frank if this isn't one of those times
> >
> > when
> >
> >>>we can say "Bingo!" "gotcha!" and words to that effect.
> >>
> >>A simple Google search shows three Ninure posts on April 12:
> >>
> >>Re: Names of God
> >>In article <c4rfo4$p08$1@nikalinux.nikaconsulting.net>, vdls@aol.com
> >>(VDLS)
> >>wrote: -I have heard God referred to as Jehovah Nissi, Jirah. Shalom
> >>and -others.....where can I find a list of all of the names and thier
> >>meanings? ...
> >>soc.religion.christian.bible-study - Apr 12, 2004 by Ninure Saunders -
> >>View Thread (6 articles)
> >>
> >>(~) Bible Readings for Sunday April 18
> >>(~) Bible Readings for Sunday April 18 Second Sunday of Easter Acts
> >>5:12a, 17-22,25-29 or Job 42:1-6 Revelation 1:(1-8)9-19 or Acts
> >>5:12a,17-22,25-29 John 20:19-31 The First Lesson Acts
> >>5:12a,17-22,25-29 Now many signs and wonders were done among ...
> >>soc.religion.christian.bible-study - Apr 12, 2004 by Ninure Saunders -
> >>View Thread (1 article)
> >>
> >>Re: Atheist Hostility Toward's "The Passion of the Christ"
> >>In article <9ioec.10129$d8.7553@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>,
> >>odysseus_7@hotmail.com (Odysseus) wrote: -Hello, - -I thought you
> >>might be interested in a summary of the secular attack-on Gibson's
> >>great movie: http://www.supportmelgibson.com/ As -Christians ...
> >>soc.religion.christian - Apr 12, 2004 by Ninure Saunders - View Thread
> >>(3 articles)
> >>
> >>*Anyone* can confirm this.
> >>
> >>How do you like your crow cooked, Davey?
> >>--Half-baked, like your evidence?
> >>--Or raw, like your language?
> >>
> >>
> >>>Than please note that while he was with us, "Frank" had similar posting
> >>>volumes to those of Ninure. A fact that can also be borne out by
Google.
> >>
> >>I'm still with you, and my posting volumes are a function of my level
> >>of interest and my availability. Not my identity.
> >>
> >>
> >>>This is as good as the evidence that had me pegged as Constance
> >
> > Vigilant.
> >
> >>No, it isn't. I didn't sign any posts "- Ninure".
> >>
> >>I
> >>
> >>>made the blunder of not coughing at that stage and brazening it out.
> >
> > Very
> >
> >>>bad of me, never again. I don't advise Ninure to put off coughing until
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>chunk of credibility I lost then flies out of her window too.
> >>
> >>I don't know if Ninure has anything to cough about, as (contrary to
> >>your failed assertion) I do not speak for her. But I haven't caught
> >>your contance cold, and therefore have no reason to cough.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Uncle Davey
> >>
> >>Uncle Doofus is more like it. That's poor research, Davey. Hope you're
> >>a better accountant than you are a detective. ;-) Or Christian,
> >>apparently. Or Christian Detective. Or whatever you are today.
> >>
> >>Now, please do the right thing and apologize for questioning my
> >>integrity.
> >>
> >>- F.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Have the integrity to tell me who you were prior to 8 March, because
you're
> > no newbie. When I am gone, you will come back in another form. You have
only
> > been here since 8 March. That is no fair exchange for 6 years. I could
pact
> > with Ninure, because she has a big usenet franchise, but if you are not
> > Ninure, then you are offering a dabbling in Usenet for a few weeks under
an
> > obviously assumed name against a long term hobby and habit? If not, the
tell
> > us who you usually are in Usenet. Only then can I agree to your suicide
> > pact.
> > You remembered detail about the CV outing I had even forgotten. Who were
you
> > then?
> >
> > I may be up for a pact but a sock does not equal a mother ship. If you
are
> > sincere about helping me, you need to gain my trust. You have NOT repeat
NOT
> > been on Usenet only since 8th March. Don't bullshit me, periscope man,
or
> > woman or whatever you are.
> >
>
>
> Davey, stop being a whiney little child, grow up, and take
> responsibility for your own actions.
>
I'm sure I saw this one earlier. You're wasting bandwidth again.
Uncle Davey, leave it with the macroes, already.
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