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From: "\"Rev Dr\" Lenny Flank" <lflank_nospam@ij.net>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.uncle-davey
Subject: Re: Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 23:38:58 +0000 (UTC)
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Uncle Davey wrote:
> news:xXidc.5078$BR1.941@okepread03...
>
>>"AC" <mightymartianca@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:slrnc7bbs3.1h4.mightymartianca@alder.alberni.net...
>>
>>>On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:41:24 +0000 (UTC),
>>>Uncle Davey <noway@jose.com> wrote:
>>
>>(Snip)
>>
>>
>>>>>I think David is, if anything, too honest.
>>
>> Is that possible? Can a person be *too* honest? Or am I missing the
>>point?
>>
>>
>>>>>Between him and Lenny, it can
>>>>>get pretty dizzying in here some times. Davey's full of hot air.
>
> He's
>
>>>>>trying to find some way out of the debate with you, and hopes to
>>
>>sidetrack
>>
>>>>>everything with external accusations of sockpuppetry. I just think
>
> it
>
>>>>>completely hypocritical that a man who used sockpuppetry and even
>
> went
>
>>so
>>
>>>>>far as forge posts would even think he had a right to make such an
>>>>>accusation.
>>
>> He *forged* posts? That is amazing to me!
>>
>>
>>>>Aaron, if I don't want to debate, I just won't answer.
>>>
>>>You're not debating now. You're making an idiotic, unfounded accusation
>>
>>to
>>
>>>try to deflect the heat. Anastasia is not David Sienkiewicz's
>
> sockpuppet.
>
>>>The very thought that David would do something like that is just plain
>>>stupid. David just relishes chewing on people like you, and certainly
>>>requires no sockpuppetry to do it.
>>
>> It does seem to be true that Mr Sienkiewicz enjoys what he does in
>>newsgroups and hiding behind false names does not seem to fit his
>
> character.
>
>>I do not share that passion. In fact, since the point has been made and
>
> not
>
>>refuted or even challenged effectively, I grow tired of this particular
>>'debate' and would prefer to look for something else to discuss. Mr
>>Sienkiewicz's fault, if he has one in a newsgroup, is that he will bore in
>>long after he has destroyed his opponent.
>>
>>
>>>>Your side is using socks and forgeries too, but when they do it, it's
>>
>>okay.
>>
>> I am amazed at this! There is no denial of the use of forgeries.
>>Instead, the response is a juvenile 'you do it, too.' That is incredible!
>>
>>
>>>Ah yes, the "it was okay for me because your side did it". What sort of
>>>moral system advocates that, Davey?
>>
>> It certainly is not a *Christian* 'system.' To say that 'I have been
>>dishonest, but you have, too' is the wrong reply from a person even
>>pretending to be a Christian.
>>
>>
>>> If you had the courage to come back
>>>full-time to talk.origins, you would already see that I did admonish
>>
>>someone
>>
>>>who had been using a sockpuppet.
>>>
>>>Beyond that, I thought you weren't supposed to bear false witness. Oh
>>>that's right. You've accepted Christ as your savior, which means you
>
> can
>
>>be
>>
>>>as vile and despicable as you want, with no risk whatsoever.
>>
>> Is Davey also an advocate of 'once saved, always saved?'
>>
>> Anastasia
>>
>
>
> "Once saved always saved" is just a modern rendering of the doctrine of
> "Perseverance of the Saints", one of the five points of Calvinism, to which
> I wholeheartedly ascribe.
>
That's nice. And why, again, is Calvin's religious opinion on the
matter any more authoritative than mine or my next door enighb or's or
my pizza delivery boy's . . . .? Other than your Holy Say-so?
I keep asking this question, and you keep avoidong it, Davey. Why is that?
===============================================
Lenny Flank
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