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From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
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Subject: Re: Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 01:31:06 +0200
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> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> news:c54mcp$5ro$0@pita.alt.net...
> >
> > news:UGkdc.5111$BR1.1086@okepread03...
> > > "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c54jq5$10n$0@pita.alt.net...
> > > >
> > > > news:slrnc7bfa0.21k.mightymartianca@alder.alberni.net...
> > > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 20:51:07 +0000 (UTC),
> > > > > Anastasia <AnastasiaK83@xocbackwards.net> wrote:
> > > > > > "AC" <mightymartianca@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:slrnc7bbs3.1h4.mightymartianca@alder.alberni.net...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Beyond that, I thought you weren't supposed to bear false
> witness.
> > > Oh
> > > > > >> that's right. You've accepted Christ as your savior, which
means
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > > > be
> > > > > >> as vile and despicable as you want, with no risk whatsoever.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is Davey also an advocate of 'once saved, always saved?'
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. That means when I say "I used to be a Christian", he calls
me
> a
> > > > liar.
> > > > > It used to bother me, but now I realize that this theological
claim
> is
> > > the
> > > > > only way he can probably stand himself anymore.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can stand myself because I know Christ died for me, and loves me.
> > >
> > > Is that the only reason?
> > > If so, you should take little comfort, since Christ died for all
of
> > us,
> > > and loves all of us. He loves the atheists and the agnostics and the
> > > evolutionists and the airheaded bitches and the little tarts and the
> > > epileptics and even you and Jason Gastrich.
> > > So what are you prepared to do about it?
> > >
> > > > If it is possible to have been a Christian, and then not be one,
then
> > did
> > > > Christ die for you or not, or did He die for you at first and then
> > change
> > > > his mind about it afterwards?
> > >
> > > I would like to see this explained. How do the two relate? One
> can
> > > certainly renounce a faith in a faith-based event. One can cease to
> > follow
> > > Christ, as you have ceased to follow Christ, and thus become a
> > > non-Christian. That does not change the reality of the event itself,
> nor
> > > does it change Christ's love and saving grace.
> > >
> > > > Anyway, I thought you used to be a JW, which is nothing to do with
> > > > Christianity.
> > >
> > > They believe that it does. Why are they wrong and you are right?
> > >
> > > Anastasia
> > >
> >
> > Ask your own priests, in Russian orthodoxy.
>
> Do you ever answer a question directly, little demon? I know how my
> priest would answer. I was looking for *your* answer.
>
> > The pravoslavie is not altogether fantastic in my book, but at least
they
> > are on the right side of the Trinity, and of the Arian controversy,
which
> > predates the east-west split anyway.
>
> That at least begins to answer.
>
> > I can say the Russian creed and believe every word of it, by the way.
>
> Do you ever permit an opportunity for boasting pass without actually
> boasting?
that wasn't a boast, that was part of the answer, the Nicene christian
creed, which is what I believe, and is also in Orthodoxy, explains what is
wrong with JWism. They do not accept that Christ is God.
My boast is that Christ is God.
Uncle Davey
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