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From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
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Subject: Re: Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 01:07:00 +0200
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> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> news:c54jq5$10n$0@pita.alt.net...
> >
> > news:slrnc7bfa0.21k.mightymartianca@alder.alberni.net...
> > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 20:51:07 +0000 (UTC),
> > > Anastasia <AnastasiaK83@xocbackwards.net> wrote:
> > > > "AC" <mightymartianca@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:slrnc7bbs3.1h4.mightymartianca@alder.alberni.net...
> > > >>
> > > >> Beyond that, I thought you weren't supposed to bear false witness.
> Oh
> > > >> that's right. You've accepted Christ as your savior, which means
you
> > can
> > > > be
> > > >> as vile and despicable as you want, with no risk whatsoever.
> > > >
> > > > Is Davey also an advocate of 'once saved, always saved?'
> > >
> > > Yes. That means when I say "I used to be a Christian", he calls me a
> > liar.
> > > It used to bother me, but now I realize that this theological claim is
> the
> > > only way he can probably stand himself anymore.
> > >
> >
> > I can stand myself because I know Christ died for me, and loves me.
>
> Is that the only reason?
> If so, you should take little comfort, since Christ died for all of
us,
> and loves all of us. He loves the atheists and the agnostics and the
> evolutionists and the airheaded bitches and the little tarts and the
> epileptics and even you and Jason Gastrich.
> So what are you prepared to do about it?
>
> > If it is possible to have been a Christian, and then not be one, then
did
> > Christ die for you or not, or did He die for you at first and then
change
> > his mind about it afterwards?
>
> I would like to see this explained. How do the two relate? One can
> certainly renounce a faith in a faith-based event. One can cease to
follow
> Christ, as you have ceased to follow Christ, and thus become a
> non-Christian. That does not change the reality of the event itself, nor
> does it change Christ's love and saving grace.
>
> > Anyway, I thought you used to be a JW, which is nothing to do with
> > Christianity.
>
> They believe that it does. Why are they wrong and you are right?
>
> Anastasia
>
Ask your own priests, in Russian orthodoxy.
The pravoslavie is not altogether fantastic in my book, but at least they
are on the right side of the Trinity, and of the Arian controversy, which
predates the east-west split anyway.
I can say the Russian creed and believe every word of it, by the way. No JW
could.
Uncle Davey
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