> On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 01:56:10 +0000, Anastasia wrote:
>
> Sorry, I got a bit bored. (How is that possible, when I have so much to
> do?)
>
> Some references for the newcomers:
>
> >
> >> Among the things our semi-sane sockpuppet-master/trolling-addict has
> >> claimed are (1) faithful Christians can defy gravity and fly,
> >
> > Was there a Biblical basis for this? That seems rather strange.
> >
>
> Check message-id: <c1prqr$9ba$0@pita.alt.net>.
>
> Attributions between [] added by me.
>
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>
> [LENNY FLANK]
>
> > Isn't God the one who told you that Christians with sufficient faith
> > can defy gravity and flap their arms and fly?
> >
>
> [UNCLE DAVEY]
>
> We'll all fly one day.
>
> ===========END EXCERPT=====================================
>
> This one actually isn't so bad, because I think in context Davey is saying
> that in heaven we'll all be able to outstip our Earthy bounds. Which, if
> one is willing to accept the belief in Christian teachings about heaven,
> is a fairly innocuous statement. But it does lend itself to making Davey
> look ridiculous. Personally I think this is one Lenny should drop, but
> Lenny rarely does anything any of us think he should do, right?
>
> >> (2) God saved the coral polyps from Noah's Flood through divine
> > intervention (no
> >> explanation if this involved wetsuits or itty bitty dive masks or
what),
> >
> > I presume that no explanation was given. In fact, my interest in
> > talk.origins is biological as that is my education. I have often
wondered
> > how things like medusoid and hydroid cnidarians can spring from a single
> > 'kind,' which is what I was once told in another discussion and at
another
> > time, but I have never heard an explanation. I am not sure how they
might
> > evolve, either, but it is one of the many questions I have for
> > creationists.
> >
>
> Message-id: <c1b7ci$ctp$0@pita.alt.net>
>
> ================BEGIN EXCERPT==================================
>
> As to the physical survival of the coral, I received the answer that coral
> survived the salination process by direct intervention, and the physical
> survival of coral, which cannot move, is partly owning to the fact it was
> raised up on reefs of similar material which formed a raft, (the term
'reef'
> is possibly cognate with 'raft' in the earlier language) so that the
living
> part would be protected against the tectonic movements going on very
rapidly
> beneath. Aclue further part of the survival is in the particular breeding
> and reproduction method of coral, which is quite a miracle of creation in
> itself.
>
> ===============END EXCERPT=======================================
>
> Davey did acknowledge divine intervention played a role, but also gave a
> semi-coherent physical explanation. (Of course, that physical explanation
> depends on totally absurd things regarding Flood geology, but that's par
> for the course around here.)
>
> >> and (3) angels do not have . . . uh . . . genitals, but . . . uh . . .
> >> interbred with earth women to produce The Nephilim using genetic
> >> engineering techniques (angel DNA and human DNA being, according to
his,
> >> uh, Divine Opinion, virtually the same).
> >
>
> This one actually comes originally from "Bible Bob", a frequenter of
> free.christians who has taken Gastrich and Davey to task for their
> behavior a number of times, and is generally a pretty decent fellow, if
> you ask me. Of course, as this excerpt will show, he is pretty beholden to
> Biblical literalism himself, but he thinks on his own and is willing to
> learn. (You'll see him occasionally talking about his quest to be the
> "World's Greatest Scientist".)
>
> This is Davey's full response to Bob's message about the subject.
> Message-id: <c0kvo0$fi0$0@pita.alt.net>
>
> Attributions between [] once again added by me.
>
> ===========BEGIN EXCERPT=========================================
>
> [BIBLE BOB]
>
> > Earth women are pretty. But they were not obsessed with the women,
> > but with destroying the blood line that would produce the promised
> > seed - Jesus Christ.
> >
> > All angels are males. There are no female or child angels mentioned
> > in the Bible. Oh, and angels don't sing or dance on the heads of
> > pins. One third of the angels are bad angels and the rest are good
> > angels. The good angels we call angels and the bad ones we call
> > demons.
> >
> > They can come into concretion in human form as in the case of those
> > who visited Abram. They can also do this to a limited degree through
> > those with familiar spirits (mediums). I suppose they could come into
> > form as little green men if they wanted to.
> >
> > The Nephilim and their interbreeding was only part of the reason for
> > the flood. The commandment had been to be fruitful and multiply -
> > male to female sex. The people had turned to man to man, woman to
> > woman, person to animal, and Nephilim to woman sex which was a
> > violation of the first commandment. All of this "continual evil"
> > jeopardized the possibility for man's redemption and the only way to
> > get rid of the bad blood was to get rid of the hosts that carried it.
> > So eight souls were saved that carried uncontaminated blood (DNA).
> >
> > BB
> >
>
> [UNCLE DAVEY]
>
> Sometimes you write some good stuff, I have to admit it.
>
> ================END EXCERPT========================================
>
> So while Davey didn't come up with the comment, he said it was "good
> stuff", and has yet to repudiate it. (Note that Bible Bob and Uncle Davey
> have very different theological systems, and disagree with one another
> quite frequently, so that Davey should have no problem voicing his
> disagreement if he actually felt any.)
>
> <snip>
>
> >> And ask him about the
> >> time God tuned up his Honda to get better gas mileage.
> >
> > ???
> >
>
> See <http://www.jcsm.org/Devos/Devos230.htm>
>
> ================BEGIN EXCERPT========================================
>
> Do you think God answers prayers? Well, He answered one of mine last week!
> I was praying that my wife's car would get over 40 miles per gallon on our
> trip to Pasadena. It normally gets 28-32 mpg. On this trip, her Honda
> Civic got 43 mpg! Praise the Lord. We went 225 miles on about 5 gallons of
> gas. God cares and answers even "little" prayers.
>
> ================END EXCERPT==========================================
>
> First mentioned on talk.origins by "David", in message-id
> <7ac69154.0312281107.512e933d@posting.google.com>.
>
>
> >> And ask to hear
> >> some of the jokes that The Almighty tells "Dr" Gastrich as he does his
> >> laundry.
> >
> > ???
> >
>
> First mentioned by "Charles C.", in message-id:
> <7o24vvk2754n24jfte62ifbkjaepinl4db@4ax.com>. Charles linked to
> <http://media02.sa-media.com/sermons008/1190241729.mp3> when he originally
> quoted this, but I haven't verified it so I don't know if it's still
there.
>
> >> (No kidding, I am completely totally one-thousand percent serious.)
> >
> > That is terrible!
> >
>
> No kidding.
>
> Hopefully this helps. It's always, um, _interesting_ when Davey and
> Gastrich are around.
>
I found this quite amusing too, reflected through your perspective.
Thanks for shining a bit of independent light on the Flankian propaganda
mechanism.
Uncle Davey
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