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From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
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Subject: Re: Legal Action Against Jason Gastrich and his Ministry
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:16:08 +0200
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> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
news:c4fhvs$ebk$0@pita.alt.net...
> >
> > > "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> > news:c4ff29$80s$0@pita.alt.net...
> > > >
> > > > Uzytkownik "Tom McDonald" <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> napisal w
> > wiadomosci
> > > > news:106mc7kjqaof4a3@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > Uncle Davey wrote:
> > >
> > > < snip >
> > >
> > > > > In this case, there are valid questions about Jason Gastrich's
> > > > > ethical and legal propriety. A Christ-like witness would give
> > > > > the cloak with the coat, and would go the extra mile, to be
> > > > > above reproach. Jason seems to be unwilling even to consider
> > > > > that he might be bringing disrepute to his Lord; and in fact
> > > > > seems to feel martyred by that suggestion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let Jason be Christ-like, and most of his problems would fall
> > > > > away like autumn leaves in a cleansing breeze.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom McDonald
> > > >
> > > > Well that's what I thought at first, when I also rebuked him, but
then I
> > > > felt so bad about it afterwards that I thought that God must be
telling
> > me
> > > > to give the guy some support.
> > > >
> > > > So I did.
> > >
> > > What if it wasn't God, Davey?
> > >
> > > If the Devil can presume to tempt Jesus, as your own scriptures tell
> > > you, is he certainly not capable of tempting you?
> > >
> > > And since you're not Jesus, isn't it possible that you can even be
> > > fooled by his mechanizations?
> > >
> > > Jason is self-serving and dishonest to the core. That's pretty
> > > obvious. He casts a shadow on the faith and brings discredit to your
> > > "savior."
> > >
> > > These are not my beliefs, Davey - they're YOURS - and your own
> > > scriptures tell you to have nothing to do with the darkness, right?
> > >
> > > Jason confuses love of himself with the love for Jesus - to him, they
> > > are one and the same thing.
> > >
> > > But Jason is an intellectual misfit - a child who can't discern the
> > > difference. His immature outlook is what prompts him to commit the
> > > clearly dishonest and deceitful acts that he commits and then justify
> > > them (or ignore them) under "once-saved-always-saved."
> > >
> > > He's also a charlatan who always looks for the easy way out - hence
> > > the reliance and trumpeting on easily obtained "degrees" that can be
> > > purchased. You told me elsewhere that you wished you could be a
> > > minister, but you don't have the gifts.
> > >
> > > Jason, it seems, is someone you view as a minister. Are deception,
> > > dishonest, arrogance and cowardice the gifts of a minister?
> > >
> > > Jason brings shame to the christian ministry, as he brings shame to
> > > you.
> > >
> > > For Jason, there is little hope. He's an arrogant little boy. But
> > > you? Despite your implacable ego and your general phoniness, I think
> > > there's hope for you. If you are truly a christian, you would condemn
> > > Jason as one of those who would say "Lord, Lord," but lack sincerity
> > > and be dismissed from the presence of God. You would see him as those
> > > of us with objective eyes see him - as nothing more than the kind of
> > > moneychanger Jesus drove from the temple.
> > >
> > > In short, Davey, you would set your own house in order.
> >
> > We'll talk about it more when I see you.
>
> We'll talk about it NOW.
>
Go ahead, you can start without me.
Uncle Davey, (ps. did you slam your fist on the desk when you wrote that?)
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