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From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
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Subject: Re: Any Puter Experts That Can Help
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:51:13 +0000 (UTC)
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>
> Uncle Davey wrote:
>
> > news:892cb437.0403040818.62666953@posting.google.com...
> >
> >>"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:<c271qt$7dn$0@pita.alt.net>...
> >
> >>>snipped>
> >>>That's about right, for a hoatzin, isn't it?
> >>>
> >>>Uncle Davey
> >>
> >>Very amusing Davey, but the joke's wearing a bit thin.
> >>
> >>RF (who appart from having four limbs, hair, a four-chambered heart,
> >>external genitals, nipples, a lower jaw consisting of a single bone on
> >>each side, a large (if occasionally underused) brain, and a host of
> >>other features which distinguish him from a herring, is a herring)
> >>
> >
> >
> > heh heh.
> >
> > okay. what does this mean:
> >
> > "10) Neck attaches to skull from the rear as in dinosaurs not from below
as
> > in modern birds.
> > The site of neck attachement (from below) is characteristic in birds,
> > _Archaeopteryx_ does not have this character, but is the same as
theropod
> > dinosaurs:
> > "Notice that this coelurosaurian-like neck extended back from the rear
of
> > the skull in _Archaeopteryx_ - as it does in coelurosaurs [theropod
> > dinosaurs], rather than from beneath as in later birds." (Ostrom 1976,
p.
> > 137).
> >
> > Skull and brain of Archae is basically reptilian and is not "totally
> > birdlike" (contrary to a certain creationist's claim)."
> >
> > What does your talkoranges faq mean when it says birds skulls attach
from
> > beneath and not from the rear? Beneath/ to the rear of what?
> >
>
> It means how the skull attaches to the neck. In neornithes the neck
> attaches to the bottom of the skull while in theropods the neck attaches
> to the skull from behind.
>
> Here is a picture of a theropod skeleton showing how it's head and neck
> connect:
> http://photo2.si.edu/dino/allosr.gif
>
> and here is a birds skeleton for comparison:
> http://www.amonline.net.au/birds/gallery/skeletons/018.htm
>
> Ken
>
I can't really see the difference. how do these two joinings relate to the
other organs, such as the veins and the oesophagus?
Uncle Davey
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