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Re: Any Puter Experts That Can Help AT&T Worldnet
Ken Shaw (none.of@your.biz) 2004/03/04 11:57
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Uncle Davey wrote:


> news:892cb437.0403040818.62666953@posting.google.com...
>
>>"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>
> news:<c271qt$7dn$0@pita.alt.net>...
>
>>>snipped>
>>>That's about right, for a hoatzin, isn't it?
>>>
>>>Uncle Davey
>>
>>Very amusing Davey, but the joke's wearing a bit thin.
>>
>>RF (who appart from having four limbs, hair, a four-chambered heart,
>>external genitals, nipples, a lower jaw consisting of a single bone on
>>each side, a large (if occasionally underused) brain, and a host of
>>other features which distinguish him from a herring, is a herring)
>>
>
>
> heh heh.
>
> okay. what does this mean:
>
> "10) Neck attaches to skull from the rear as in dinosaurs not from below as
> in modern birds.
> The site of neck attachement (from below) is characteristic in birds,
> _Archaeopteryx_ does not have this character, but is the same as theropod
> dinosaurs:
> "Notice that this coelurosaurian-like neck extended back from the rear of
> the skull in _Archaeopteryx_ - as it does in coelurosaurs [theropod
> dinosaurs], rather than from beneath as in later birds." (Ostrom 1976, p.
> 137).
>
> Skull and brain of Archae is basically reptilian and is not "totally
> birdlike" (contrary to a certain creationist's claim)."
>
> What does your talkoranges faq mean when it says birds skulls attach from
> beneath and not from the rear? Beneath/ to the rear of what?
>

It means how the skull attaches to the neck. In neornithes the neck
attaches to the bottom of the skull while in theropods the neck attaches
to the skull from behind.

Here is a picture of a theropod skeleton showing how it's head and neck
connect:
http://photo2.si.edu/dino/allosr.gif

and here is a birds skeleton for comparison:
http://www.amonline.net.au/birds/gallery/skeletons/018.htm

Ken

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