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Subject: Re: Any Puter Experts That Can Help
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> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
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>
> > So is this fossil a bird or is it a reptile?
> >
> Oh I see. We are going to get another standard creationist argument. I
> now have to say either 'It's a bird', in which case you'll say 'Then
> it can't be a reptile' or I say 'It's a reptile' in which case you say
> 'Then it can't be a bird'.
>
> Using this mode of argument, there can never be any intermediate
> between birds and reptiles. But it is not a very good argument, as
> even a five year old child can tell.
>
> Archaeopteryx is classified as a bird. It has anatomical features that
> it shares with modern birds, and anatomical features it shares with
> dinosaurs.
>
> > If hoatzins don't have bony tails now, then that's not a big issue.
Within
> > cats and dogs, tail length differs greatly.
> >
> How about birds? Ever seen a bird with a long, bony tail?
You just said it was a bird.
Modern birds
> have no bony tail. None of them. They have a structure called a
> pygidium. No modern bird has teeth. They have beaks, unlike
> Archeopteryx. Look out of your window and see if you can spot any
> birds with teeth.
So how did the beak evolve then?
Where are the millions of fossils of the intervening structure between
toothed jaws and a beak?
>
> > Kindly explain to me the evolution of the feather,
>
> There is a good series of feathered dinosaurs which demonstrate the
> evolution of feathers very well. I would guess that a simple web
> search would tell you all about it. I can't be bothered to do it for
> you, as you won't take any notice of it no matter how good the
> evidence.
If you cannot present the evidence, then I certainly won't.
I usually do look at most things people take the trouble to find for me. I
may not agree with them, that's any thinking man's prerogative.
>
> >and what the drivers were
> > behind that evolution when skin flaps were fine for pteradactyls and
still
> > are for chiroptera, which handle flight better than many birds.
>
> Completely and utterly irrelevant. Evolution is not predictable, any
> more than the long-term movements of the planets, or the weather are
> predictable.
>
That's just a blanket cop-out.
> >
> >
> Uncle Davey
>
> Once again, you are trying to argue from ignorance. I don't think
> anyone is in the slightest bit persuaded.
>
> RF
Why didn't crocodiles die out with the other large reptiles?
Are they immune to the iridium layer, or what?
Uncle Davey
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