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Snowbird (snowbirdRemoveThis@ThisToosnowbird.freeserve.co.uk) 2004/02/27 16:45

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Jerzy Jakubowski wrote:
> Snowbird <snowbirdRemoveThis@ThisToosnowbird.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<yWr%b.11935$h44.1248971@stones.force9.net>...
>
>>Jerzy Jakubowski wrote:
>>
>>
>>>dgenglish@hotmail.com (dave e) wrote in message news:<10ffa4e4.0402251455.6a6303dd@posting.google.com>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Snowbird <snowbirdRemoveThis@ThisToosnowbird.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<HJN_b.11469$Y%6.1079250@wards.force9.net>...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Uncle Davey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>So, umm, what's your scientific theory of the resurrection, then?
>>>>>
>>>>>I never claimed to have one. Nor did I claim that one was necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>-
>>>>>Wayne
>>>>
>>>>Three errors common to medical pseudoscience today, can equally well
>>>>be applied to the Biblical accounts of the resurection.
>>>>
>>>>1.   Patient's initial condition is not carefully diagnosed (Was Jesus
>>>>actually dead, prior to the reported resurection?)
>>>>
>>>>2.   Patient's final condition is not properly evaluated (Did Jesus
>>>>actually come back to life, after he reportedly died?)
>>>>
>>>>3.   The case study is entirely bogus.  The patient never existed, as
>>>>claimed.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>That's not quite what I had in mind in my question for Snowbird.
>>>
>>>Wayne, why is a scientific theory of the new creation not necessary
>>>when a scientific theory of the first one was?
>>
>>The theory of evolution is not a theory of creation of the universe.
>>Resurrection is not a 'new creation' of the universe and is a faith issue.
>>
>>-
>>Wayne
>
>
>
> But the New Testament talks about the universe dissolving with fervent
> heat and a new heaven and earth appearing, so how is that not a 'new
> creation' of the Universe?

That wasn't the issue. The issue was that the resurrection of Jesus isn't
a new creation and doesn't need a scientific theory. Heck nothing *needs*
a scientific theory, *we* just use them to try and find things out about
this universe.

> Which bits of the Bible do you believe and which bits don't you
> believe?

I think you are drifting from the original question.

-
Wayne

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