AC wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:28:34 +0000 (UTC),
> Jerzy Jakubowski <branchofjesse@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>fnci@comcast.net (Frank J) wrote in message news:<38c5d0dd.0402141003.510da09e@posting.google.com>...
>>
>>>"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message news:<c0jm8c$jgr$0@pita.alt.net>...
>>>
>>>>news:c0jjk0$k96$1@titan.btinternet.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Uncle Davey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I read Phillip Johnson's book Darwin on Trial.
>>>>>>>He mentioned that US's Jewish community is not interested to
>>>>>>>fight against neodarwinism/evolution.
>>>>>>>It seems embarrashment to creationists ?
>>>>>>>Jewish people know perhaps better the original hebrew version of Genesis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In fact I remember only one Jewish creationist :Spetner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>A marvelous jeweler told me rumors about gray mold in US theater.
>>>>>>>A marvellous jeweller told me rumours about grey mould in UK theatre.
>>>>>>>How come ? Well, the farther from Darwin the more corrupted language ;)
>>>>>>> - http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ktikkane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's a good question, and I believe I have worked out the answer to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are a number of Christians who believe in a theistic evolution, as
>>>>>>most Jewish believers seem to do, but for those who take seriously the
>>>>>>central Christian doctrine of the Resurrection, and, what goes hand in
>>>
>>> hand
>>>
>>>>>>with that, a new heavens and a new earth, all resurrected, so, in other
>>>>>>words, a new creation, a problem occurs which doesn't occur for the
>>>
>>> Jewish
>>>
>>>>>>believer, for whom the resurrected form of the afterlife is not a
>>>
>>> central
>>>
>>>>>>doctrine. This problem is, if we say that God was unable to create the
>>>
>>> old
>>>
>>>>>>world directly, and miraculously, without waiting for billions of years,
>>>>>>then what of the new creation?
>>>>>
>>>>>So, how do you get from "God created the world in billions of years" to
>>>>>"therefore God is unable to create to create a new world directly"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If we are to believe that God will create the new world immediately, by a
>>>>miracle,
>>>>then what's the problem with believing the first was also a rapid,
>>>>miraculous, direct Creation?
>>>
>>>Two reasons: (1) The evidence of the past supports a different
>>>account, and (2) The Bible commands us not to bear false witness.
>>>
>>
>>The evidence of the past supports either account. There are things
>>which neither account can fully explain, and some things appear better
>>explained by one or other of the two accounts.
>>
>>
>>>>Especially when the new world promise comes from the same Bible as the old
>>>>world creation account.
>>>
>>>And the same Bible that says "the letter killeth but the spirit giveth
>>>life."
>>>
>>>>Uncle Davey
>>
>>That pasage refers to the letter of the law, not the literality of the
>>resurrection.
>>
>>Please don't bear false witness yourself, about what the Bible is
>>saying.
>>
>>Please don't use glib interpretations out of context to make the Bible
>>look like an unworkable document.
>
>
> You mean out of context quoting is wrong, Davey? Hmmm...
>
Does "Dr" Gastrich know that . . . .?
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