It says in the Revelation that all the sorcerers and adulterers are
going to go to hell. This precludes the idea of all-encompassing
salvation, doesn't it?
"Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message news:<bfqlhn$qb0$1@news.onet.pl>...
> news:861Ua.29236$xn5.4727322@news0.telusplanet.net...
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> > "Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3271bf15.0307232222.6ed33bf1@posting.google.com...
> > > http://www.petitiononline.com/stopgod/petition.html
> >
> > Hmmm .... this is a good starting point for a discussion esp. on
> > alt.fan.uncle-davey, the newsgroup of which I am adding, to see
> > if my uncle davey has some comments ......
> >
> > la n.
> >
>
> What comes to mind is that God is the creator, he made us, and we did not
> make ourselves. He can do what he likes with us, and we are very much on the
> receiving end. We cannot dictate to him.
>
> This petition is for God to 'stop making bad things happen', but this
> presupposes that human beings have a higher morality than their own creator.
> This is not a frame of mind to come to God in. If God sends plagues and
> misery into this current world, then that is by definition not a bad thing,
> but serves whatever purposes he is working out. And they are grand and
> mysterious purposes beyond our understanding.
>
> The expression 'it's not funny any more' is also out of place. As creatures
> of dust we are ill qualified to assess what counts as humorous in the courts
> of eternity. It's bad enough when you get priggish people who sit in
> judgment on each others sense of humour and decide on behalf of the world
> what's funny and what isn't. All the more when someone tries to reign in the
> sense of humour of the most high. Who made them the arbiter of what is funny
> and what isn't?
>
> The definition of classical comedy in Greek drama is that things turn out
> well in the end. And we know that 'eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, nor
> hath entered into the heart of man the things which God hath prepared for
> them that love him'.
>
> The definition of tragedy is that owing to some flaw in the character of the
> hero, he comes to grief even though the answer was within his grasp.
>
> Throughout the world, the lives of people fall into one of these two
> categories, comedy or tragedy, depending on what they do with the Gospel,
> the message of Christ, very God and very Man, who suffered and died on the
> cross for our sins, paying the punishment for these sins so that anyone
> entering into a covenant with Him by repentance and faith can be saved to
> the uttermost, although they have no goodness in themselves. This is
> available to everyone, and can be brought near to anyone by reading the
> Bible and praying. For those who accept the gift of God, namely salvation in
> Christ, all's well that end's well. For those who turn away because they
> reject God and want to know better than God what is right and what is wrong,
> are like drowning men who reject the lifeboat that is sent for them because
> they do not like the colour. Tragic it is, and not funny. But God's fault it
> most certainly is not.
>
> For those who do accept Christ, God shall wipe every tear from their eyes
> and give them a glorious eternal inheritance, in the light of which the
> worst of their earthly suffering shall be remembered no more than a grown
> man remembers the pain of cutting his first baby tooth.
>
> Best
>
> Uncle Davey
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