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> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:27:34 +0000 (UTC), "Uncle Davey"
> <noway@jose.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >news:Uj1Xb.6067$jf.2418@twister.socal.rr.com...
> >> Uncle Davey wrote:
> >> >> "Dr. Jason Gastrich" <news@jcsm.org> wrote in message
> >> > news:<XivWb.907$Le2.634@twister.socal.rr.com>...
> >> >>> Uncle Davey wrote:
> >> >>>> news:00dk201e8m91tsi8bos14c1n9q72d8qjhb@4ax.com...
> >> >>>>> In free.christians I read this message from "Dr. Jason Gastrich"
> >> >>>>> <news@jcsm.org>:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [snip]
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Bugga Bugga is preaching a false gospel. Perhaps this is God's
> >> >>>>>> judgment on him. I won't be helping him get anything up and
> >> >>>>>> running.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Are all computer failures God's judgement?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If they were, he wouldn't have said 'perhaps'.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I can see Jason weighed his words in that poste.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Uncle Davey
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You have a keen eye, Davey.
> >> >>
> >> >> So some computer failures are God's judgement. And some diseases, I
> >> >> assume. And some football game loses as well. Is there a way I can
> >> >> tell when my computer fails if it is God's judgement or not?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Ask Him.
> >> >
> >> > Uncle Davey
> >>
> >> Good advice, Davey. It would be wise for the questioner to first
repent
> >of
> >> his/her sins and trust Christ for salvation before asking Him this
> >question.
> >> The first prayer God wants to hear is one of repentance and belief in
> >> Christ.
> >>
> >> JG
> >>
> >
> >Well, as very well put on your own webpage
http://www.occm.org/TheGospel.htm
> >, a very good opening prayer is:
> >
> >"Dear God, I am a sinner. I know that the price of my sin is death and
> >eternal separation from your presence. I don't want to be doomed forever.
I
> >want that gift your Word speaks of. I want eternal life. I know that
nobody
> >is worthy and nothing I could ever do could earn me a place in Heaven, so
I
> >ask you now that you forgive me of my sins. Reveal my sins to me and help
me
> >repent from them.
> >I accept and trust your son, Jesus Christ, as my personal Lord and
Savior. I
> >believe in my heart that only through Him can I be saved. I believe Jesus
> >died on the cross, for my sins, and rose from the dead.
> >Thank you God for hearing my prayer and answering it. In Jesus name I ask
> >all these things, with faith and thankfulness. Amen."
> >
> >But bearing in mind that repentance is in the first place a gift of God,
> >there is every reason to ask God to _grant_ repentance even if we don't
feel
> >like repenting, or even know what to repent of.
> >
> >Neither is perfect faith necessary, as one answered prayer to God was 'oh
> >Lord, I believe, help thou mine unbelief'.
> >
> >We can ask God to reveal to us how we look in his holy sight. This shows
us
> >our sin in a new light. This also facilitates repentance. I would not ask
a
> >sinner to put off his first prayer to God until he felt he could repent
> >properly, or that he felt by the end of his prayer that he could already
> >believe in a saving way in Christ. Asking for God to show His judgement
upon
> >our sins prior to repentance is a valid prayer, I believe, and can be
> >followed up by repentance as God gives it, seeing that God gives even the
> >repentance we appear to ourselves to work out, as a divine gift. (Acts
> >5v31).
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Uncle Davey
> >
> >
> Uncle Davey,
>
> Sounds real pretty but is it Biblical?
>
> What happened to the ambassador and the holy spirit and their role in
> the conversion? Romans 10:9 and 10 is in there in a watered down
> version, but watered down means "impure" and "unholy".
>
> You are not a novice so I ask you "According to the Bible addressed to
> the church of the body of Christ in this adminsitration/dispensation
> (after Penetecost) , what must a man do to be saved?" How about a new
> thread titled "What Must a Man do to be Saved"?
>
> I think this topic would be valuable because there are so many
> doctrines out there about "how to be saved" that one can not expect
> the unsaved to understand what's going on. You have a pretty good
> handle on what the European versions of Christianity teach and I have
> a pretty good understanding of what the American brands teach, maybe
> we could put something together that is worthwhile. At least it
> beats talking about evolution and science.
>
> BB
>
To be saved, a person must repent of their sins and belief in Christ's
perfect sacrifice for their salvation.
They must venture wholly on the blood of Christ and let no other trust
intrude.
Uncle Davey
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