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From: "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl>
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Subject: Re: It's official
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:31:27 +0200
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> "Ilya Shambat" <nijof@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:10f1d777.0309281139.4a233f6d@posting.google.com...
> > The sweet couple that teaches Christianity 101 at church invited me to
> > lunch. They read me Bible verses and guided me through the process of
> > conversion. Then they told me what the Holy Spirit was like. That the
> > evidence of a person who has the holy spirit are kindness, gentleness,
> > patience and self-control. When I got home I felt those qualities,
> > that had been so alien to my nature, grow in me. They may have come
> > from the Holy Spirit, or they may have come from them.
> >
> > The man said that God is a fact, and that there are many other spirits
> > that aren't of God, and that when a person is indwelt by the Holy
> > Spirit those other spirits can't come in - the most they can do is
> > influence me. The wife then said that the person has to serve God
> > first and foremost, and all other things only for as long as they
> > reflect the wishes of God. She said that she would have been horrified
> > if her husband made her the first thing in his life, saying that his
> > character and worth as a husband comes from him putting God first.
> >
> > When I said that I could be a useful person for God due to my literary
> > talent and my experiences, they said that one must approach God with a
> > spirit of humility, that God already has everything and what he wants
> > is for me to make myself the kind of person he wants me to be. They
> > said that God wants all people to be like Jesus, which means that like
> > Jesus there are going to be trials and difficulties, but God will be
> > there. I said I would probably have with God the same kind of
> > love-hate relationship I've had with everyone else in my life, at
> > which point they told me that after God has done the kinds of things
> > he's gonna do for them it could only be possible to love him.
> >
> > They read the verse in Revelations about how everyone whose name was
> > not in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. I asked them
> > if Book of Life was the people who had performed unselfish service,
> > and they said that it was the people who had given their lives to
> > Christ. They read about where Christ was telling his disciples that he
> > had overcome the world. Which I suppose means that a follower of
> > Christ will be called upon to overcome that which is of the world
> > inside him.
> >
> > The preacher said that Christian life is a supernatural life - one
> > gets emotional resources that aren't his and does things that a person
> > by himself couldn't do, including stand in New York wearing a colorful
> > T-shirt that says "Jews for Jesus" and take people's hatred and hatred
> > and still give out sincere agape love. Julia told me that to be
> > righteous in eyes of God one needs to do good for people without any
> > desire for any selfish reward. When done alone, this could lead to
> > feelings of resentment and of entitlement - secular altruism always
> > turns into abusive codependency, which leads to precisely the nasty
> > totalitarian scenarios that Ayn Rand saw so clearly. But when one has
> > the holy spirit one is full of joy, and doing unselfish service
> > without obnoxious side effects becomes possible.
> >
> > I told them about the experience when my mom was beside herself with
> > me, so I decided to get to the bottom of it. I meditated and prayed
> > all night, and Jesus was telling me that I wasn't sincere when I was
> > coming to him, until I worked through all things in me and in the
> > morning came to him with a pure heart, and immediately he filled me
> > with agape, which is not an emotion I had felt before. In that
> > presence was contained also ability to have insight, self-control,
> > security and awareness of character. Immediately I felt moved to call
> > my mother and apologize to her for the things I've done wrong.
> >
> > I told them about the miracles in my life, Layo's mysticism, magickal
> > attacks, telepathy. I told them that I fit the profile of Antichrist,
> > being Jewish, from Russia, having had miracles happen in my life and
> > having been in contact with spirits and having spent much of my
> > conscious energy for a long time trying to disprove Christianity. To
> > this they responded by "We can disprove that you are Antichrist in a
> > minute, when you come to Christ." ANd when I finally said these words
> > - "I give my life to the service of Jesus Christ" - many things became
> > clear that had not been clear to me before. I felt a sense of peace
> > and a sense of agape.
> >
> > It's probably going to be a hard road. But in the end, Julia and I
> > will come together in heaven, in a way we could not be in this life.
> > And there will be many others there, who will likewise be filled with
> > love, in a place of timeless light and beauty.
>
> Well, this is very interesting, Ilya. You have undergone so many
> transformations since I first knew you some 10 years ago.
>
> All I can say, as always, is if you're happy, I'm happy for you.
> Plus, I want to cc. this to Uncle Davey's fan group. Because
> this seems up his alley.
>
> la n.
I am delighted to hear it. I am afraid I have had to trim some of the groups
out because there is a limit on how many I can post to on this account.
I am however not surprised. Ilya has been giving off signs for sometime of
being unwittingly in the elect.
Glory to God!
Uncle Davey
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