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Subject: Re: Uncle Davey A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:30:44 +0000 (UTC)
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:20:10 +0000 (UTC), "Uncle Davey"
<noway@jose.com> wrote:
>
>"Ariaan"
><thisisagenuineaddresssopleaseomittheobvioustoreplyNOOOSPAM@hotmail.com>
>wrote in message news:RVzQb.285958$_x2.601226@zonnet-reader-1...
>> Bible Bob wrote:
>> > Uncle Davey has not posted to the group much in the past few days
>> > under his Uncle Davey posting handle. He did, however, post three
>> > posts using the handle Jerzy Jakubowsky but signed those posts as
>> > Uncle Davey.
>>
>> So? He explained why he had to use that handle. And that he signed with
>> 'Uncle Davey' makes it even more a non-argument.
>
>I'm away a lot at the moment, and the google construct I have from way back
>is sometimes the only thing that will work.
>
>>
>> > Then, today, he posted a post to the thread "Jason Gastridge Has Gone
>> > Too Far" and that post was a reminder of his past behavior that he had
>> > supposedly repented of. For those of you who do not know, Uncle Davey
>> > has a long standing reputation as a troll and even boasts of it. He
>> > through "Uncle Davey and "Constance" played everyone for a fool and
>> > was proud of his deceptive behavior. He has been manipulating Jason
>> > Gastridge by pretending to be Jason's friend while at the same
>> > deceiving Jason.
>>
>> Jason likes to be deceived. And exactly how did UD deceive Jason?
>>
>
>I didn't tell him, or anyone else for that matter, about my wierd sense of
>humour when it comes to sockpuppets.
>
>Donald Stanley Hayden and you yourself have as much if not even more reason
>to be mad with me, actually.
>
>> > Uncle Davey has been accused of sexual perversion by posters from
>> > other groups based on comments made by his sock puppets to different
>> > groups. I am more concerned about the lying spirit that he manifests
>> > from time to time.
>
>If I'm a pervert for running a feminine character you can say the same about
>every novelist or playwright who has ever written dialogue for a female
>character.
>
>>
>> Elaborate on the lying.
>>
>
>I'm a trinitarian.
Are you really a trinitarian? Are you saying that being a trinitarian
is the reason that you used deception? That would make sense, but the
reason you were deceptive is because you wanted to be. You thought it
a form of personal entertainment. You were led by a spirit alright, a
lying spirit a deceiving spirit.
>
>> > The basic meaning of the word "satan" is "accuser". Uncle Davey does
>> > a lot of accusing, but does not support his accusations with rightly
>> > divided word of truth. He preaches doctrines of the spirit of
>> > antichrist and in my opinion is a messenger of satan sent by satan to
>> > cause division in this group.
>>
>> Well, you did a pretty good job of spreading that hate vibe yourself, by
>> making Trinitarians out to be hate mongers and worshippers of the
>> antichrist.
>
>He still is.
He misquoted me, but you knew that and you know that you are the one
that is being deceptive.
>
>>You kept repeating that in almost every post you made.
>
>He still is.
Another lie. I haven't made any posts about trinitarians for a while,
>
>>You are
>> as much a cause of 'schizms' as UD or anyone else. Besides, I don't think
>> there are any schizms. It's just you on the one side, being a sort of
>> Unitarian, and everyone else on the other side. That's just how it is. No
>> way to put it more mildly.
>>
>
>True. And Bible Bob is even ready to cosy up with atheists to fight any of
>the Christians over the
>doctrinal issues we disagree on. A lot of the talk.origin atheists are
>pretty bright, however, and can see through that pretty easily. Bob is in
>fact their kicktoy, but is not perceptive of that fact...
What atheists? I was talking to people in the t.o group. And I did
not ask any of them whether they were atheists. But now that you
mention it there are a couple of them that aren't too into the Bible.
Still, are they atheists because they busted you or because they are
really atheists. People like to throw that label around a lot.
>
>
>> > Jesus said that we will know them by their fruit. Uncle Davey
>> > produces a lot of fruit, sour putrid hate filled fruit that is not
>> > from a good tree. He has worked hard to cause schisms in the body of
>> > Christ as evidenced by his behavior as himself and Constance to cause
>> > divisions between Jason and myself and Ariaan and Jason.
>>
>> Uncle Davey has had nothing to do with my troubles with Jason. They are
>> solely caused by Jason's own ignorance and my temper.
>>
>
>Believe me it causes me a lot of sorrow to see that Jason and you don't get
>on, but I know it is because you are too similar in character. Iron
>sharpeneth iron, but sometimes iron can blunt iron, and then we have to keep
>a distance, I suppose, even from people that we are gonna spend eternity
>with.
That is contrary to the Word of God and you know it. We are supposed
to be workers together with God and we are supposed to work out our
differences. Your statements are in contravention of First John which
is the epistle that covers fellowship between believers. Part of our
growth is learning how to get along with each other, learning how to
forgive each other, etc.
>
>> > He is once again buttering up Jason by posting material to support
>> > false statements by Jason even though he knows that what he is posting
>> > is not true. Hopefully, this time, Jason will not be so gullible and
>> > will reprove Uncle Davey for his deceptive behavior.
>
>I have posted what I know to be very true, and based in the larger part on
>your own words.
I just went back and reread your post and it was full of lies.
Evidently you do not know what truth is. Truth is not revealed by
deception.
>
>> >
>> > To kill file Uncle Davey would not be wise. You keep your friends
>> > close and your enemies even closer. He needs to be watched and his
>> > words can not be taken as truth. I will be watching him and will
>> > expose his deceptiveness when I see it. However, Uncle Davey has much
>> > better Usenet skills than I have and may use other posting names or
>> > other posting skills that I am not aware of. No one on this group
>> > was able to catch him in his previous deceptive behavior and it took
>> > people from the talk.origins group to track down and expose his
>> > behavior.
>
>Very clever, they are. It's a pity they are not clever enough to realise
>that evolution doen't account for the world we live in. But this
>understanding derives not from human wisdom.
>
>> >
>> > The bottom line is that Uncle Davey has continually displayed
>> > deceptive behavior, hatred, and other unseemly behavior towards people
>> > that frequent the f.c. group and should not be trusted. He has not
>> > repented of his deceptive behavior and it doesn't look like he will do
>> > so in the near future. Until he does I recommend that we refrain from
>> > responding to his posts. He craves attention and giving him attention
>> > will only inspire him to post more lies. Jason's recent attempt to
>> > justify Uncle Davey's sick behavior may have been the catalyst that
>> > has motivated Uncle Davey to continue his deceptive behavior.
>> >
>
>First of all, there was no such justification. Here you lie, and therefore
>by the standards of your own ranting verbiage are in the indentured service
>of the father of lies, a practising satanist who only postes from inside the
>safety of an iron pentacle, etc etc etc.
I didn't lie, read the paragraph again.
>
>> > I am cross posting this to alt.fan.uncle-davey and to talk.origins. I
>> > am cross posting to a.f.u-d so he and his fan club will see it (By the
>> > way why does UD need a fan club if his goal is to bring glory to
>> > God?).
>
>I don't have a fan club, it's just a usenet group. It's used by people who
>want to read what I write. I'm sorry if that bothers you. Those who wanna
>read what you write go to your website, and you can keep stats, which I
>can't off afud.
I'll buy that. I don't keep stats either because I can't keep the
hit counter working (it keeps resetting to zero) and because programs
are too expensive for me to buy. I wish there was a free one that
worked for people with limited skills.
>
>> > I am posting it to the t.o group to let them know that he is
>> > still behaving as he was. To the t.o people who are more adept than
>> > I, I ask that you not be offended by this post. I am doing so because
>> > you have better skills than I and I need your help. Also, Uncle Davey
>> > needs your help. He seems to respond better to you guys than to me
>> > because you see through him and don't let him get away with his crap.
>> >
>
>Bobby, get your agnathic sucker mouth off of the atheists' backsides, get
>your skanky ovipositor back inside your abdomen, and buy yourself a slice of
>dignity.
Uncle Davey, you post there. I could find "agnathic" in the
dictionary. I found ovipositor, but I don;t have one of those. You
can't buy dignity Uncle Davey. It';s something that you have or don't
have based on the value system that you try to adhere to. I don't
have the skills necessary to catch you, but they do. Is that why you
called them atheists above? Are the silly little role playing
fantisies that you engage in more important than do what is right and
acceptable. If so, your life is getting out of balance.
>
>I'm glad Ariaan has the patience to discuss with you in a cicvilised manner
>still, because mine has run out.
Ariaan and I disagree about a lot of stuff, but we don't hate each
other.
>
>And you can take your stalkers' charter set out above and stick it down your
>heresy-regurgitating throat.
Stalker's charter? Oh, you mean because I said I would be watching
you. You call that stalking. I call it doing the job of a shepherd,
keeping the wolves away from the sheep.
>
>Uncle Davey
>
>
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