On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:44:49 +0000 (UTC), "Ariaan"
<thisisagenuineaddresssopleaseomittheobvioustoreplyNOOOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Bible Bob wrote:
>> Uncle Davey has not posted to the group much in the past few days
>> under his Uncle Davey posting handle. He did, however, post three
>> posts using the handle Jerzy Jakubowsky but signed those posts as
>> Uncle Davey.
>
>So? He explained why he had to use that handle. And that he signed with
>'Uncle Davey' makes it even more a non-argument.
I wasn't saying he did anything wrong.
>
>> Then, today, he posted a post to the thread "Jason Gastridge Has Gone
>> Too Far" and that post was a reminder of his past behavior that he had
>> supposedly repented of. For those of you who do not know, Uncle Davey
>> has a long standing reputation as a troll and even boasts of it. He
>> through "Uncle Davey and "Constance" played everyone for a fool and
>> was proud of his deceptive behavior. He has been manipulating Jason
>> Gastridge by pretending to be Jason's friend while at the same
>> deceiving Jason.
>
>Jason likes to be deceived. And exactly how did UD deceive Jason?
Uncle Davey as himself and Uncle Davey as Constance supported Jason in
his arguements pretending to be Jason's friend. After he was
discovered and David beagn asking questions about the relationship
between Jason and Constance, Uncle Davey continued playing Constance
thereby allowing Jason's reputation to be in question. Uncle Davey
pretended to be Constance who pretended to be a friend of Jason. From
Jason's point of view, Uncle Davey and Constance were supporting Jason
against me. As you know Jason broke off fellowship with me in part
because of the antics of Uncle Davey and Constance.
Uncle Davey pretended to be a man of integrity and fooled Jason, me
and everyone else until he was caught by the guys in the t.o group.
As the truth began to unfold about Uncle Davey we learned that he has
been doing this for years using many names on many groups and was
proud of his accomplishments. He was proud to be a deceiver. Say
what you want about Jason, he is a believer as are you and I and
others on this group that corresponded with Uncle Davey. And we were
all deceived.
>
>> Uncle Davey has been accused of sexual perversion by posters from
>> other groups based on comments made by his sock puppets to different
>> groups. I am more concerned about the lying spirit that he manifests
>> from time to time.
>
>Elaborate on the lying.
You are a spiritual man. Read his posts and you will see it. But you
will have to set your personal animosity towards me aside to see it.
Just because a person argues your point of view does not mean that he
is right or honest,
>
>> The basic meaning of the word "satan" is "accuser". Uncle Davey does
>> a lot of accusing, but does not support his accusations with rightly
>> divided word of truth. He preaches doctrines of the spirit of
>> antichrist and in my opinion is a messenger of satan sent by satan to
>> cause division in this group.
>
>Well, you did a pretty good job of spreading that hate vibe yourself, by
>making Trinitarians out to be hate mongers and worshippers of the
>antichrist. You kept repeating that in almost every post you made. You are
>as much a cause of 'schizms' as UD or anyone else. Besides, I don't think
>there are any schizms. It's just you on the one side, being a sort of
>Unitarian, and everyone else on the other side. That's just how it is. No
>way to put it more mildly.
>
I didn't say worshippers of the antichrist as he hasn't been revealed
yet. I used the words spirit of antichrist which is biblically
accurate. I don't think I used the words hate mongers either.
I have to admit that it was foolish to argue with Jason, Uncle Davey,
Constance, and you. But my motive was not to cause a schism; nor did
I. I spoke the truth. The truth is that trinitarians did murder and
torture people, promoted slavery, and a host of other evil things
under the guise of Christianity. Trinitarians did falsify the
scriptures to promote their doctrines. And when trinitarians were
confronted with the truth they began throwing tantrums and rebelling
against the truth of God's Word. To date none of them, including you,
have been able to prove from the scriptures that the soctrine of the
trinity is true. Using your logic, Jesus Christ was a heretic because
he spoke against the oral traditions of the religious leaders of his
time.
Now even you are trying to play the Jason role as evidenced by your
trying to label me with what I am not. But I'll play - I'm on one
side and others are on the other side. Jesus Christ was on one side
and the others were on the other side and who was right? Ariaan, you
can not blindly follow men and expect to do the will of God. The
renewed mind is a mind conformed to the teachings of the Word not the
teachings of the world.
>> Jesus said that we will know them by their fruit. Uncle Davey
>> produces a lot of fruit, sour putrid hate filled fruit that is not
>> from a good tree. He has worked hard to cause schisms in the body of
>> Christ as evidenced by his behavior as himself and Constance to cause
>> divisions between Jason and myself and Ariaan and Jason.
>
>Uncle Davey has had nothing to do with my troubles with Jason. They are
>solely caused by Jason's own ignorance and my temper.
If you say so, but you might want to go back and check the Constance
and Uncle Davey posts.
>
>> He is once again buttering up Jason by posting material to support
>> false statements by Jason even though he knows that what he is posting
>> is not true. Hopefully, this time, Jason will not be so gullible and
>> will reprove Uncle Davey for his deceptive behavior.
>>
>> To kill file Uncle Davey would not be wise. You keep your friends
>> close and your enemies even closer. He needs to be watched and his
>> words can not be taken as truth. I will be watching him and will
>> expose his deceptiveness when I see it. However, Uncle Davey has much
>> better Usenet skills than I have and may use other posting names or
>> other posting skills that I am not aware of. No one on this group
>> was able to catch him in his previous deceptive behavior and it took
>> people from the talk.origins group to track down and expose his
>> behavior.
>>
>> The bottom line is that Uncle Davey has continually displayed
>> deceptive behavior, hatred, and other unseemly behavior towards people
>> that frequent the f.c. group and should not be trusted. He has not
>> repented of his deceptive behavior and it doesn't look like he will do
>> so in the near future. Until he does I recommend that we refrain from
>> responding to his posts. He craves attention and giving him attention
>> will only inspire him to post more lies. Jason's recent attempt to
>> justify Uncle Davey's sick behavior may have been the catalyst that
>> has motivated Uncle Davey to continue his deceptive behavior.
>>
>> I am cross posting this to alt.fan.uncle-davey and to talk.origins. I
>> am cross posting to a.f.u-d so he and his fan club will see it (By the
>> way why does UD need a fan club if his goal is to bring glory to
>> God?). I am posting it to the t.o group to let them know that he is
>> still behaving as he was. To the t.o people who are more adept than
>> I, I ask that you not be offended by this post. I am doing so because
>> you have better skills than I and I need your help. Also, Uncle Davey
>> needs your help. He seems to respond better to you guys than to me
>> because you see through him and don't let him get away with his crap.
>>
>> BB
>
>Ariaan
>
>PS have you seen my reply to you last Tuesday? Not that you have to respond
>to it right away, but I'd like to know if I might perhaps need to repost it.
>
Ariaan
I posted responses on the 18th. I just resent them. I see a post
from you on the 20th, but I just skimmed it and it doesn't make any
sense (I skimmed fast and will get back to it later). You made three
posts out of one when you did that dictioanry thing which made it very
difficult to handle. As it was it too me three or four hours to
answer them. I edited my response so that it would be in harmony with
the premise of the post. I think it would be best if you kept
everything in one post. It would be easier for me if you read both of
my responses and then responded in the original thread which contains
all of my comments.
BB
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