On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 00:07:13 +0000, Mujin wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:50:41 +0000 (UTC), "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>U?ytkownik "Mujin" <baka@hornedking.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
>>news:qqgevvgcdfijtk0vlm8o8eceb8f2od78cp@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:11:25 +0000 (UTC), "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >U?ytkownik "Dana Tweedy" <tweedyd@cvn.net> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
>>> >news:bt6ius$3rqtb$1@ID-35161.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>> >>
>>> >> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:bt6g18$fcd$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl... snipping
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Sorry about that, it's just that your name does conjure up a nice
>>Irish
>>> >> Lady
>>> >> > singing in the Eurovision song contest 'all kinds of everything'
>>> >> > and
>>> >> dressed
>>> >> > in a Harris tweed jacket. It's a very pleasant image.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > And then there was Dana International, who won the Eurovision Song
>>> >Contest
>>> >> > for Israel in Birmingham in 1998 (I was there and saw that live by
>>the
>>> >> way,
>>> >> > in the audience), but I can't really call that Dana a 'she', since
>>> >> > in
>>my
>>> >> > theology anyone born male stays that way, regardless of what
>>> >> > medical procedures they undergo.
>>> >>
>>> >> Never heard of Dana Andrews, Dana Eclar, or Dana Carvey?
>>> >
>>> >Never.
>>> >Neither is your name in my dictionary of first names either as a
>>> >female
>>or a
>>> >male name.
>>>
>>> Try here: the boy's name "Dana" is listed under D (as one might
>>> expect...)
>>>
>>> http://www.baby-names-meanings.com/
>>>
>>> Interestingly, Dana doesn't appear on the girl's list at all. --
>>> K
>>>
>>> Never put off till tomorrow what may be done today.
>>> English Proverb
>>>
>>>
>>"A Dane?"
>>
>>In what language is that supposed to mean a Dane?
>>
>>Sounds completely unscholarly to me.
>
> No, simply abbreviated.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2rwqp
> DANA (2) m,f English
> Pronounced: DAY-na
> From a surname which originally belonged to a person who was Danish.
>
> Besides, the etymology is irrelevant. What *is* relevant is whether the
> name is used for boys.
>
> Here's a Dana who is male:
> http://www.a-clue.com/
>
> and another
> http://www.robinsongs.com/
>
> and another
> http://www.danagioia.net/
>
> All three are on the very first page of hits following a simple search
> with the term "dana" through yahoo:
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?va=dana&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-tab-web-t&n=20&fl=0&x=wrb
>
> Also among the 20 hits on the first page were two web sites apparently
> referring to women named Dana, and the academic home page of a professor
> of mathematics named Dana, gender unspecified.
>
> Of six hits on the first page alone, then, we have 50% men, and another
> who I would guess probably is just based on the usual gender ratios in
> mathematics departments.
>
> On the second page of hits, I came across a couple of your examples
> (female) and yet another man:
>
> http://www.cowswithguns.com/homepage.html
>
> and another:
> http://www.nextexit.com/
>
> and another
> http://www.cs.umd.edu/~nau/
>
> Another woman:
> http://www.danadelany.com/
>
> and another woman:
> http://www.danaglover.com/
>
> Dana(m):Dana(f) in 40 hits on a very, very simple web search is 6:4
>
> Face it. Dana is a boys name as well.
>
>
>>So how come, in a random sample of males, no definable males came up and
>>all the definable cases were female?
>
> Two possible reasons:
> 1. Your search criteria to generate the random sample was poorly suited to
> the project.
> 2. Your sample size wasn't big enough to be representative.
>
> [note that the second problem applies equally to my search]
>
> I think we can discount the additional possibility that you "cherry
> picked" the results of your search so as to make it appear there were more
> women.
>
>
>>I am using scientific method here, and you are using non-scientific
>>resources.
>
> We're both using unscientific resources - the web is not a representative
> sample of people named Dana. --
> K
>
> Let deeds match words.
> --Platus
I know nobody cares anymore, but:
<http://www.census.gov/genealogy/names/>
Click on the two listings for first names (male and female) and search for
"Dana".
From dist.female.first
Name % pop. cum. % #
DANA 0.122 55.748 179
Indicating that "Dana" is the first name for 0.122 percent of the female
population.
From dist.male.first
Name % pop. cum. % #
DANA 0.042 79.340 314
The male Danas are, assuming the male and female portions of the
population to be approximately equal, about a third as populous as the
female Danas. Hence it is better, at least for those living in the U.S.,
to assume that any Dana you meet for whom you do not know the sex is
female.
Just for the record, the equivalent data for "Daniel" is:
MALE
Name % pop. cum. % #
DANIEL 0.974 25.194 12
FEMALE
Name % pop. cum. % #
DANIEL 0.005 83.955 1321
This proves that I am much more manly, virile, intelligent, and
good-looking than Dana Tweedy.
--
...and it is my belief that no greater good has ever befallen you in this city
than my service to my God. [...] Wealth does not bring goodness, but goodness
brings wealth and every other blessing, both to the individual and that state.
Plato, quoting Socrates, from The _Apology_
--Daniel Harper
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