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"Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message
news:btbr0u$8vr$2@news.onet.pl...
>
> news:_tdKb.41254$mU6.155231@newsb.telia.net...
> >
> > "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message
> > news:bt4vgo$8el$1@news.onet.pl...
> > >
> > > news:slrnbvbgb6.1o0.mightymartianca@namibia.tandem...
> > > > On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC),
> > > > Uncle Davey <noway@jose.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > news:7ndJb.40748$mU6.152529@newsb.telia.net...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:ukt9vv0hcqktmdosu2hvprh2ibvfa93o1i@4ax.com...
> > > > >> > On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 01:35:19 +0000 (UTC), Tom McDonald
> > > > >> > <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >Uncle Davey wrote:
> > > > >> > >
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net>
> > > > > w
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>>Uncle Davey wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net>
> > > > >> w
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>Roadrunner wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>It's funny to see how many efforts are being made by
> > > > > evolutionists
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>push someone into the mud. Seems that most of such
> > evolution
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>religion followers have a personal vendetta of some sort
> > with
> > > > > those
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>who oppose them. This netgroup is about learning
> something.
> > > It
> > > > >> may
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>also be used to find out how to approach your opponent.
I
> > > agree
> > > > >> that
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>we indeed also have fixated creationists, however
> > > evolutionists
> > > > >> seem
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>to believe that they are all excluded from that
> possibility?
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>It's a wise man that understands himself!
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>Good point. It's quite peculiar who they act this way.
> > > > >> Nonetheless,
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> we
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>press on because there is work to do and fellowship to
> have.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>JG
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>Jason,
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>Do you know the "work" Roadrunner would do, and what
> > fellowship
> > > > >> > >>>>>he craves? You may be surprised.
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>Tom McDonald
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>You are obviously itching to tell us.
> > > > >> > >>>>So bust a move.
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>Uncle Davey
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>Davey,
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>Well, it's been done already. But you asked me, so....
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>Roadrunner is a sort of fundie Scientologist who's somehow
> > > > >> > >>>gotten himself in a jam with the main "church", and is now
> > making
> > > > >> > >>>it up on his own. He believes implicitly in L. Ron
Hubbard's
> > > > >> > >>>'religious' vision. He is opposed to evolution because L.
Ron
> > > > >> > >>>Hubbard was opposed to it. Now he's found another bunch of
> folk
> > > > >> > >>>who oppose evolution, and who are even (in some ways) part
of
> > the
> > > > >> > >>>larger world; and has hitched himself to the the YEC's view
of
> > > > >> > >>>creationism.
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>He is not, to my knowledge, a Christian of any stripe. His
> > > > >> > >>>jargon isn't Christian; it is Hubbardian/Scientologist. If
> YEC
> > > > >> > >>>Christians make common cause with him on the theory that his
> > > > >> > >>>accepting of creationist arguments must make him an
acceptable
> > > > >> > >>>ally, that's your choice. But he isn't one of you in more
> than
> > > > >> > >>>this narrow way, and you might consider whether his motives
> > > > >> > >>>matter in your support of him.
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>If you're so inclined, you might ask him about Xenu and his
> > > empire.
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>HTH
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>Tom McDonald
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Okay, thanks for that. Obviously I don't associate with that
> > sort
> > > of
> > > > >> thing,
> > > > >> > >> but in fairness I have to let him react to this before I
make
> my
> > > mind
> > > > >> up on
> > > > >> > >> the matter.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Uncle Davey
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >Davey,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Of course you have to follow this up with him. It's the
> > > > >> > >scientific thing to do :-). Seriously, it is also the right
> > > > >> > >thing to do, morally.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > If you are able to get him to give you a straight answer, I
for
> > > > >> > >one would be grateful.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >Tom McDonald
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Tom:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > L Ron Hubbard. His dianetics sucks, but man could he write
> sci-fi.
> > > > >> > Have you every read his decology. I read it straight through
> > except
> > > > >> > to eat, sleep, bath etc. It was hilarious. It is my favorite
> > scifi
> > > > >> > book of all times. Ten books, but it was worth the time. His
> > satire
> > > > >> > with regard to pschology, the news media, and the like was
> > excellent.
> > > > >> > And the poor bad guy, the stuff that happened to him had me
> pitying
> > > > >> > him and laughing to the point of tears. Too bad he got into
the
> > > other
> > > > >> > stuff, he was a good writer.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And they do address him as 3rd grade SF writer, hmmm.....someone
> > > disagrees
> > > > >> apparently.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > BB
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Roadrunner please confirm or deny the accusations that your
> philosophy
> > > is
> > > > > akin to scientology.
> > > >
> > > > For goodness sakes, Dave, can't you use Google Groups?
> > >
> > > Of course I can, but it's fair to ask him, isn't it?
> > >
> > > Of course, if you wanna suggest some good search terms from what you
> > > remember, that'd be a short cut for me.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please also confirm or deny the Shoah in the nineteen thirties and
> > > forties
> > > > > in Europe, in which some 6 million Jews were murdered, since
> recently
> > > you've
> > > > > also been accused of Holocaust denial.
> > > >
> > > > If you can get him to answer that question then I will be astounded.
> > >
> > > You're right so far. His response did not contain a straight answer,
so
> > I've
> > > asked again.
> >
> > A straight answer would be completely besides the point. I have no
> interest
> > what so ever discussion what I think about that. I am no need to prove
> > myself. I made some reasonable suggestions. However people seem to
like
> > distractions! Tsjeek, tsjeek.........
>
> You talk like Mumin Troll.
Because you don't understand. that's why some are so quick to designate
someone being a troll. I does not make them troll though!
>
> >
> > What about some indesputable evidence about the Auschwitz gaschambers,
> done
> > by an objective international team of accepted experts. Does someone
want
> > that this does not take place? Why?
> >
>
> Listen, Quisling, if you want to see Oswiecim for yourself, come and see
it,
> and let me know when you're coming so that I can make the necessary
> arrangements for some, hmmn 'extramural' activities.
Alright then, you don't want to be rational about it. So there is no point
in any further discussion about this with you. I suspected already so much
to judge from your previous inputs on this webgroup.
>
> Uncle Davey
>
>
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