"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
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> > "Robert E. Sloan, a paleontologist at the University of Minnesota, has
> > studied the Karroo Formation. He asserts that the animals fossilized
> > there range from the size of a small lizard to the size of a cow,
> > with the average animal perhaps the size of a fox. A minute's work with
> > a calculator shows that, if the 800 billion animals in the Karoo
> > formation could be resurrected, there would be twenty-one of them for
> > every acre of land on earth. Suppose we assume (conservatively, I
> > think) that the Karroo Formation contains 1 percent of the vertebrate
> > [land] fossils on earth. Then when the Flood began, there must have
> > been at least 2100 living animals per acre, ranging from tiny shrews
> > to immense dinosaurs. To a noncreationist mind, that seems a bit
> > crowded."
>
> Well, how come they're all in one place and my back garden doesn't look
like
> that?
Why should you garden look like that?
>
> > The world's chalk and similar deposits, such as the White Cliffs of
> > Dover, contain far too many remains of microscopic organisms for them
> > to have been all alive at once [there'd be little room in the oceans
> > for the water]. And there's no way these dead shells of foraminifera,
> > diatoms, etc. could have settled out in the short time allowed by the
> > flood story.
>
> If fossil rocks are not down to the flood, why aren't they being formed
now?
Fossil rocks are being formed now. In any where where sediment is being
laid down on earth today. Fossils are just the remains of life that got
trapped in the layers of sediment.
>
> >
> > The world's coal seams also contain far too much plant remains to
> > have lived at the same time.
> >
>
> Why doesn't the forest floor look full of carbon now?
Take a look at any forest floor, anywhere in the world. See that pile of
leaves? They contain carbon. See that branch? Carbon. See those
mushrooms? Carbon, see those ferns, and grass, and flowers, and vines, and
pine needles etc, etc etc? All carbon. All living things on earth are
CARBON BASED! Have you ever heard of a peat bog? That's the first stage
of coal formation.
>
> > There are series of fossil forests with roots and fossil soil _in situ_
> > above other fossil forests with similar roots and soil. To form, the
> > trees will have had to grow to maturity, be buried and preserved, and
> > have other mature trees grow above them, and so forth.
> >
>
> Why don't we see trees growing on top of each other now?
Again, have you ever visted a forest? Not some park, where fallen trees are
hauled out, but a real, old growth forest? Trees are growing about fallen
trees right now. All you have to do is look. It's like your comment about
the North Star being the brightest star. If you just go look for yourself,
you will find that you are wrong.
>
> > >> For that matter, the same fallacy [the false expectation that the
> > >> currently-known fossil record should be very complete] also cuts
> > >> against any creationist viewpoint that all Corydoras are one "kind":
> > >> where are all the fossil intermediates documenting in detail the
> > >> "micro" evolution of the modern diversity of Corydoras from their
> > >> single original ancestral type?
> > >
> > >If fossils were mainly produced in the Flood, then that would account
for
> > >it.
> >
> > If the proper conditions for good fossil formation were commonly
> > localized and often pretty rare, that would account for it without
> > invoking any Flood.
> >
> > http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/postmonth/sep02.html
> >
> > >In normal circs other fish eat the remains and scatter the bones.
Snails
> > >utilise the calcium for their shells. Do you think I find fish bones in
a
> > >normal aquarium if a fish dies and I don't find it on time?
> >
> > Thus, your explanation is again basically similar to the evolutionists'.
> > Most dead organisms simply won't give rise to fossils. Fossil
> > formation didn't involve any global Flood, but it does often have to
> > involve locally very favorable conditions, such as stagnant bodies of
> > anaerobic water with high rates of sediment deposition, at the right
> > pH.
>
> Where do we see these now?
Have you ever been off the pavement in your life? One can find such pools
in just about anywhere there is standing water.
>
> >
> > >This is why I don't understand the production of oil biologically.
Either
> it
> > >is non-biological, or there was a Flood, or else it is the mass die out
> of
> > >anaerobic life at the point when Chlorophyll evolved in cells.
> >
> > Or it was biological and none of the above? Oil formation isn't a
> > topic I'm well informed on, but I suspect it's not such a mystery to
> > geologists.
> >
>
> I'll throw this one open to the floor then....
>
> This is all open to the floor anyway, but particularly this oil topic
needs
> some input...
http://www.es.usyd.edu.au/Geophysics/GeophysicalImaging/fossil_fuels_lecture2.PDF
http://www.booknews.co.uk/Books/2619.htm
http://www.mineralswa.asn.au/~cmepet/page1.html
Snipping the rest.
DJT
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