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From: "Dianthus" <horticult2000@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: vladik death hoax
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:24:43 +0100
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Unfortunately it seems not te be a hoax. I just got confirmation of his
carcrash from a third party in Crimea.
Dianthus
"joselite" <josenowhere@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2009110909511416807-josenowhere@gmailcom...
> Azov Films announced the death of Vladik Shibanov in a car accident three
> weeks ago. Further details and photos are on the site vladik.org and on
> azovfilms.com.
>
> I was suspicious from the beginning that this was a hoax. I was first
> made suspicious by the way too fluent English on the vladik.org site. The
> writer claims to have known Vladik and knows details of his life and
> death, as if he lives in Crimea. The English is that of a native English
> speaker, very well written. Russian is spoken in Crimea, some Ukranian,
> almost no one speaks English there. I doubt that anyone living in Alushta
> in Crimea is capable of writing such English.
>
> The name Azov Films suggests that they are based in Russia or the Ukraine.
> They are not--they’re based in Toronto Canada. They distribute films made
> all over the world to an English speaking audience. I suspect the way too
> good English is being written by someone in Toronto, not by anyone from
> Crimea. Azov Films continued selling Vladik’s films after his death. Not
> even a small decent interval to allow this young man’s family to grieve.
> I smell a hoax, designed to sell more movies. If Vladik were dead, they’d
> give his family and friends some time to mourn out respect.
>
> Vladik was “born into a humbled home” but worked and bought himself a 2008
> Mitsubishi Outlander with his own money. That’s tough to believe. A new
> Mitsubishi Outlander in the US sells for over $30,000, the 2008 model Vlad
> is pictured with goes for around $25,000. I’m sure Vladik made some money
> from his film career. I’m sure he didn’t earn anywhere near this much. I
> suspect that a lot of the boys in these movies were paid with pizza and
> ice cream. This car is way beyond the means of a teenager in Crimea in
> the Ukraine. It’s beyond the means of teenagers in America and Europe
> unless their wealthy parents buy it for them.
>
> What convinced me of the hoax was the photos posted on the Azovfilms.com
> website. Look at the photo of the crash scene and read the description of
> the crash. Vladik was traveling near 100 mph on a wet road with bad tires
> and spun out of control. The photo of the crash scene shows a concrete
> post (completely undamaged) and a bent guardrail on the INSIDE of a curved
> road. This is impossible. A car spinning out of control on a curve is
> pulled to the OUTSIDE of a curve by centrifugal force. This force greatly
> increases as velocity increases. In the accident described Vladik’s car
> should have gone off the outside of the curve. The concrete post, struck
> by a fairly good size car at nearly 100mph, should show some damage. There
> is none. The crash scene is fake.
>
> Then look at the picture of the car after the “crash.” It’s the same
> Mitsubishi Outland Vladik is pictured standing next to--there’s the same
> sign in the rear window. The car has plastic draped over and around it.
> The rear door and passenger side doors have been left slightly ajar.
> There is absolutely no sign of any real damage to the car. If this car
> had really been in an accident at very high speed, killing the driver
> instantly, you’d see obvious damage: most or all of the windows
> shattered, most or all of the tires blown out or missing, the frame bent,
> the roof crushed. You see none of this. The rear window is intact. Both
> passenger side tires are intact, and the car is sitting level, meaning the
> driver’s side tires are also intact. The frame is not bent, the roof not
> crushed.
>
> What really tops it off is the dramatic, tragic description of Vladik’s
> passenger lying trapped in the car, enduring physical pain and the pain of
> seeing Vladik’s body lying next to his, as paramedics worked for nearly an
> hour to cut them out of the car using the Jaws of Life. You’ve got to be
> kidding. I was a paramedic for over ten years. The Jaws of Life are
> needed almost exclusively for one situation: a car has flipped over onto
> its roof at very high speed or has rolled over multiple times. This
> crushes the roof down into the passenger compartment, making it impossible
> to open the doors and impossible to extract the victims through the
> windows. Look at photo of the car after the “crash.” No crushed roof.
> Passenger side intact, rear window intact. Anyone inside this car could
> easily have been extracted in a few minutes through the passenger side,
> through the rear, or through the windshield.
>
> No one died in this car. No one needed to be cut out using the Jaws of
> Life. I don’t think this car has even been in an accident at all. Hoax.
>
> Maybe Vladik did actually die. He did not die in the car crash that’s
> described and pictured on these websites. If Vladik is dead, perhaps Azov
> Films should honestly tell people what happened to him. It’s obvious a
> lot of people cared very much for this young man.
>
> My hunch is that Vladik is alive and well in Crimea. He may not even know
> that he’s dead. I doubt he can read English well enough to read all the
> beautiful things that have been written about him the past three weeks. He’s
> probably riding his mountain bike right now completely unaware that he’s
> been dead for three weeks.
>
> If Vladik participated in the hoax, it’s probably just for the money or
> for a joke, or both. Vladik had a great sense of humor in his movies. If
> someone approached him and asked if he’d like to die a tragic death in a
> car accident to help sell a few more movies and make a little more money,
> he probably laughed and then called all his friends on the phone to tell
> them that he’s dead.
>
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