On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:41:37 -0800, Mover wrote
(in article <041120090241377816%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
> In article <0001HW.C716602E0031A4FEB02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:21:14 -0800, Mover wrote
>> (in article <031120091921142465%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
>>
>>> In article <0001HW.C714F7750010D22AB02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
>>> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:42:56 -0800, Mover wrote
>>>> (in article <021120090042562883%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
>>>>
>>>>> In article <0001HW.C713A7300020EA4CB02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
>>>>> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:45:52 -0800, Mover wrote
>>>>>> (in article <011120091645525496%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <Xns9CB6B83D38132ail2@216.40.28.85>, Uri wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mover <Mover@Watch-Me.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:311020092145143408%Mover@Watch-Me.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <Xns9CB61574616F7mails@216.40.28.85>, Uri wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NP-f31 wrote in news:nbt9e5pdvs2ggdjs160nni9r7c0flo12lo@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I asked you to describe what qualities you'd seek in a paedophile
>>>>>>>>>>> hero and what such a hero would have to do to defy the world and
>>>>>>>>>>> snatch victory from it. What I got was a lot of invective and
>>>>>>>>>>> abuse. If I were to take a few moments to remove the hatred and
>>>>>>>>>>> insults from your post THIS is what you said:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My concept has merit? thank you Doc, I feel better now with your
>>>>>>>>>>>> recognisement!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your words denote the 'notable' excess of self esteem you have. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> consider you quite stupid. Take that fact as the starting point of
>>>>>>>>>>>> our argues, think about it as YOUR chance to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm all ears and eyes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have been lucky to have grown your ego in a place so compliant
>>>>>>>>>>>> with your reflections, but take my word that an environment with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> higher IQ would have torn you to pieces long time ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, life is a breeze for me. Everything comes to me SO easily.
>>>>>>>>>>> I never have a problem in the world. You have no idea how things
>>>>>>>>>>> are for me. You're quick to assume things, but far be it for anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> else to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And about me, well, I will remain in silence as long as I was able
>>>>>>>>>>>> to control the repulsion that characters like you or your friend
>>>>>>>>>>>> y-not inspire to me. It's spectacular anyway the big number of
>>>>>>>>>>>> semireligious figures one has to meet and bear throughout life. At
>>>>>>>>>>>> what point of our dear civilization did we reserve a place for all
>>>>>>>>>>>> these frauds? They have the mouth full of 'jesus he loves me',
>>>>>>>>>>>> being that assumption an abstraction of the true feeling: 'I love
>>>>>>>>>>>> myself' -oftenly too much and oftenly with no discernment-. And
>>>>>>>>>>>> through love, self love, is that they feel in position to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> that they are better than the rest, and therefore that they can
>>>>>>>>>>>> correct anyone. And if they say 'I'm genuinely interested in your
>>>>>>>>>>>> disagreement', they are meaning 'I'm professionally interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>> correcting yourself'. Well, you are quite idiot and my english can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be improved but you got the idea, didn't you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you're saying that my interest in your point of view is
>>>>>>>>>>> disingenuous. And you don't want to be preached to. Is that
>>>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another sort points: You can't stand an offer if you have nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>> to offer. My doubts are over your limits. I have not the lesser
>>>>>>>>>>>> interest in 'enlighting' yourself? Yes the opposite, but not by
>>>>>>>>>>>> you, obviously. And you question about the nature of my war at the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same time that claim to be 'mine in boylove'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I've made no attempt to change your mind. I'm trying to get
>>>>>>>>>>> you to speak yours. I'd like to understand the root of your rage.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not like you, so don't ever presume again to be like me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's easy because I have no idea what you're about. So far you
>>>>>>>>>>> have been full of unfocused anger that you'd like to hurl at me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To begin with, I'm not an hypocrite with leadership illusions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you explain in what way I'm a hypocrite? As for leadership
>>>>>>>>>>> illusions, this is my philosophy: I am a rugged individualist. I
>>>>>>>>>>> know what I want and what I believe in. I do what I think is right.
>>>>>>>>>>> Whether people follow or not is not a matter of concern to me. If I
>>>>>>>>>>> believe someone is wrong I speak my mind. If someone needs help, I
>>>>>>>>>>> generally lend a hand. I'm not perfect and I don't strive for
>>>>>>>>>>> perfection. I do my best.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can talk about exposition. I'm exposed to a world often hostile,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I do without a picture of my family in my pocket.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps that is a direct result of the way you approach the world.
>>>>>>>>>>> Why does the fact that I'm a father bug you? I became a Dad before
>>>>>>>>>>> I realized I was a boylover.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell us, dear Doc, how many
>>>>>>>>>>>> times did you hide yourself behind your marriage?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never. You don't know, you can only assume. My wife knows I am a
>>>>>>>>>>> boylover. My oldest son knows I am a boylover, my best friends know
>>>>>>>>>>> I am a boylover, my parents know too. Are you more out of the
>>>>>>>>>>> closet than me? I doubt it. Unless, of course, you were hauled
>>>>>>>>>>> before the courts because of something you did to a child, then
>>>>>>>>>>> EVERYONE knows about you being a pedophile, right? Have you
>>>>>>>>>>> voluntarliy admitted your secret to anyone close to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How many times did you
>>>>>>>>>>>> hide your interest in boys behind a picture of your own children?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now tell me that you never approached to an anonymous boy and told
>>>>>>>>>>>> him: 'I'm father of 2 little boys just like you...'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't approach anonymous boys. I smile at them from a respectful
>>>>>>>>>>> distance. One time when I did help a boy in trouble I said, 'I know
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not your Dad, but I am a Dad; and nothing you could tell me
>>>>>>>>>>> would surprise me.' I'm not a predator Uri. When I see a boy, my
>>>>>>>>>>> first thought is not sexual. It is one of appreciation. In saying
>>>>>>>>>>> that I'm not judging anyone, simply refuting your implications with
>>>>>>>>>>> the truth about me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not the fraud you are, I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> have such a useful mask as the one you allways wear.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's an assumption I wouldn't make of another. How do you
>>>>>>>>>>> approach an anonymous boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Pedohero' is disparaging, didn't you notice?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it was clever invention. I wanted to be the first to say
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When Michael Jackson gave that famous interview he was near to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> hero, he exposed his feelings just like they were, knowing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> rejection he would rise. Lamentably, not even his fortune could
>>>>>>>>>>>> isolate him from such an opposition. The pressure drove him to
>>>>>>>>>>>> madness. He wanted to be a boy, to transform himself into a boy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the only image of beauty he ever knew. To hide his persona he
>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a family like yours, my dear Doc. He bought your legitimate
>>>>>>>>>>>> mask and Mark Lester' sperm all in the same packet, isn't it cool?
>>>>>>>>>>>> And well, why all this peripheral deranged chatter? Oh yes, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hero.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A hero is an executant of his own and true feelings, even when
>>>>>>>>>>>> those feelings aren't shared by any other person in the world. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> definition could approach the terms heroism and madness more than
>>>>>>>>>>>> we wish, except for the own definition of 'truth' and 'true
>>>>>>>>>>>> feelings'. Truth can be the same for everybody, and that's the key
>>>>>>>>>>>> and my end.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was about to be disappointed thinking that Michael Jackson was
>>>>>>>>>>> the best you could do. But then you gave me a pseudo-definition of
>>>>>>>>>>> what a pedophile hero would be to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It comes down to being true to yourself no matter what others
>>>>>>>>>>> think. Right? I think what you described is the act of being noble.
>>>>>>>>>>> How does a pedophile being true to himself defy the world and
>>>>>>>>>>> snatch victory from it? I think the answer may lie in your usage of
>>>>>>>>>>> the word executant. One who 'performs' his own true feelings. What
>>>>>>>>>>> does that mean to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Save your answer, I don't need it, do you need it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No answer, only more questions. Earlier you disparaged me by saying
>>>>>>>>>>> that I used so many words to say so little. I think the same
>>>>>>>>>>> applies to you. Your answer is pretty lame. If you'd like to be a
>>>>>>>>>>> paedophile hero you're going to need more than just your 'super
>>>>>>>>>>> insulting powers'. That and a cool suit wouldn't even make you a
>>>>>>>>>>> comic book hero. Heroes lead, and they need to give others a reason
>>>>>>>>>>> to follow. If I'm all the BL world has for a hero, then as a group
>>>>>>>>>>> we're screwed, right? So, why don't you REALLY speak your mind and
>>>>>>>>>>> lead rather than bitch at others from the sidelines. You act like
>>>>>>>>>>> it's a piece of cake.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the difference between you and me. I took a stance and
>>>>>>>>>>> support it. I talk the talk and walk the walk. I'm out here taking
>>>>>>>>>>> bullets form wannabes like you. You want the mantle? Come and take
>>>>>>>>>>> it. You want to lead? Then step out front. Come out of the shadows
>>>>>>>>>>> proud paedophile and be the point man. Lead, maybe I'll follow.
>>>>>>>>>>> Start your revolution.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise shut the fuck up and quit whining.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Isn't it fabulous the -notable again- number of deaths that
>>>>>>>>>>>> devastate the 'boylover world'? How many, how many? Our boys are
>>>>>>>>>>>> dying, how tragic! the devil couldn't wait another day to have
>>>>>>>>>>>> those boys in his arms. Maybe our sperm is carrier of some kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>> terrible curse, who knows, the list of tragic and early deaths is
>>>>>>>>>>>> big enough to question ourselves. Duncan, Lloyd, a guy named
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kolya,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kidhacker, the old Y-not, John the latin kid, a guy named MTB,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vladik... Jesuschrist, and the ingenuous boylovers believe,
>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt, anything that is said to them. Some people fake
>>>>>>>>>>>> that they are children, some fake that they are moribund. It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of lie very recurrent here, the boylover groups love drama.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>>>> oppinion is that neither boylovers nor lovedboys have a premature
>>>>>>>>>>>> date with death, but in any case with lie. Take it the way you
>>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I truly hope that Vladik isn't dead. I know you meant to be
>>>>>>>>>>> sarcastic, but boys die too. If he is alive and well that would
>>>>>>>>>>> thrill me. He gave us joy. Did he give you no joy? If he IS dead,
>>>>>>>>>>> it is a tragedy, isn't it? The rate of death in the boylove world
>>>>>>>>>>> is the same rate of death as in the general population. But we have
>>>>>>>>>>> fewer numbers and it hits us harder. And yes, a lot of BLs are
>>>>>>>>>>> Drama Queens. Sometimes the deaths are real, sometimes they are
>>>>>>>>>>> rumours. It is quite clear that Duncan and Lloyd are alive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Isn't 'whining' a very recurrent expression from this group, this
>>>>>>>>>> group of kids? Logic. Childish expressions and ideas from a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>> children.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And about your post, I told you, I have too few respect for you to
>>>>>>>>>> waste my time answering your stupid blahblah. Give me something
>>>>>>>>>> intelligent and I'll answer. But how did you dare to ask me if I
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> your mantle, after all I said? And you call my anger 'unfocused'?
>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>> whathefuck, who I'm talking to? You must be very stupid, more than I
>>>>>>>>>> imagined. I never recognized your 'mantle', neither the mantle of
>>>>>>>>>> those who you define as heroes. The heroes are leaders? Come on, my
>>>>>>>>>> dear Doc, you expose yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see your cockroache Y-not very active lately, more than usual. So
>>>>>>>>>> he didn't realized that I consider him an insect? Mmmm.. Or maybe
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't want to believe. He fools himself then :). Come on, my dear
>>>>>>>>>> Doc, he wants to be your closest friend, you smell 'familiar' x) to
>>>>>>>>>> him. I think he's a little in love with you. I remember to have seen
>>>>>>>>>> something like that before. But where? Oh yes, at school, the cool
>>>>>>>>>> boy and his lackey, a classic couple
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Funny you complaining about "whining" in this group. There would be
>>>>>>>>> much less if you didn't do it. LOL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doc and Y Not were enemies. You don't look very intelligent yourself,
>>>>>>>>> saying they were even nice to each other, much less friends. And
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> Y Not is dead, they can never kiss and make up. What does a ghost
>>>>>>>>> taste like? LOL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why is it you say Doc is too stupid to be worth posting to, when you
>>>>>>>>> are posting to him? Is it because you are equally, if not more,
>>>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>>>> yourself?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doc is wasting his time with you, but most of us know why, and why he
>>>>>>>>> posts in the Fort in general. The real question is why are YOU
>>>>>>>>> posting
>>>>>>>>> here and to Doc? Is it because you like looking stupid? LOL
>>>>>>>>> It sure doesn't look like you are trying to accomplish anything
>>>>>>>>> useful. Except to help make fun of you. LOL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mover
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Funfunfunfunfun, forgodshake, what a loser. Being you a lunatic
>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>> nervous and with a miserable sense of humor, probably you are the
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> buffon here who doesn't get fun at all. So you are too pathetic to
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> smile, too blunt to get me angry, and too stupid to excite my
>>>>>>>> intelligence.
>>>>>>>> A waste, as said before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should I want to excite anything about you? Why should I do
>>>>>>> ANYTHING to please you? Why should anybody here do anything you want?
>>>>>>> Give me a reason. Any reason. You haven't yet. Not one.
>>>>>>> So, I don't feel like it. LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most, if not all, of my humor here is understandable only by someone
>>>>>>> fluent in English, and much of that only someone born to English will
>>>>>>> understand, and some of that only a very educated person will fully
>>>>>>> understand. Translation programs won't work. Therefore, that you don't
>>>>>>> understand or appreciate my humor is to be expected, as you obviously
>>>>>>> are not as skilled with English as you presumably are with your native
>>>>>>> language. What might be interesting, is why you don't know this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way, an admitted depressed looser, you, calling somebody here
>>>>>>> who at least tries to be funny a loser, is very funny. LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mover
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fluent in english? Check
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Native born speaker? Check
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very educated? Check
>>>>>
>>>>> Who, you? Me? Somebody else? A combo platter?
>>>>> You didn't say.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I still think your humor sucks....
>>>>>
>>>>> Not "electrifying"? LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> But at least it doesn't suck dead people! LOL
>>>>> Or swallow doll heads. Ugh!
>>>>>
>>>>> For someone who doesn't like my humor, you strangely act to encourage
>>>>> quite a lot of it by your posts. In my own very important opinion
>>>>> (LOL), that's funny!
>>>>>
>>>>>> And in the "aren't I clever catching typos" department I'm not clear
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "....an admitted depressed looser..." means. Looser in what way?
>>>>>> Skeletally?
>>>>>
>>>>> Make no bones about it. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for that lovely straight line. I was hoping you would catch
>>>>> that one "error", since you expressed interest in doing that,
>>>>> "especially" this kind. LOL Notice I spelled it right the next time?
>>>>> This is all Uri is good for; giving me an opportunity to encourage
>>>>> friends to play.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's one thing about my humor you should have noticed. This is not
>>>>> copied joke posting. It's all spur of the moment, created as I type it,
>>>>> and I type very fast. I think some people appreciate it, and the effort
>>>>> and skill that goes into it. But, that doesn't matter too much. What
>>>>> matters most to me is I like it, and enjoy reading some of what I write
>>>>> again sometimes.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I suggested another thread, I didn't mean make an already long
>>>>> thread longer!
>>>>> I think you knew that too.
>>>>> Are you messin' wit' me! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, PLAY with me some more? LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Mover
>>>>>
>>>>> Ps Disappointing the attack poetry has dried up.
>>>>
>>>> So you deliberately put the typo in so that I would catch it?
>>>
>>> I do so declare. And did. Just as I deliberately pushed all your other
>>> buttons whenever I wanted to. It's SO easy. LOL
>>> Need me to repeat that, and be redundant, too? LOL
>>>
>>>> You are a fucking riot. Do you think anyone actually believes that?
>>>
>>> Akshually, I don't think anyone cares but you, just you. Notice all the
>>> notice? LOL
>>>
>>>> Hey.
>>>> You fucked up. It happens to all of us.
>>>
>>> You more than me. LOL
>>>
>>>> Remember those times you forgot to
>>>> change your header when you were posting as one your puppets? That was
>>>> so
>>>> fun...
>>>
>>> I don't do puppets. Do you?
>>>
>>>> If I had shitty jokes like yours (are they even jokes??) I'd be relieved
>>>> to
>>>> attribute them to someone else. But, you openley admit that you have
>>>> "created" them.
>>>
>>> I did. And I would do it again, too.
>>> They'er MINE, all MINE.
>>> See? I did. LOL
>>> I like them.
>>>
>>>> Me? Mess with you. Perish the thought.
>>>
>>> But you are just now, and every time you post to me, weather or not it
>>> clouds your day to know it, and every time you rein on somebody else
>>> that I can horse around with. LOL
>>>
>>>> Why don't you start a new thread if you feel the need. I might suggest
>>>> the
>>>> subject line: Shit on Y-Not and his Deputies
>>>
>>> How about Morpheus and his mental disorders? LOL
>>> But how can I make fun of a post if I'm the first poster in the thread?
>>> I'm not lookin to do that. LOL
>>>
>>> Mover
>>
>> Morpheus and his Mental Disorders
>>
>> I like it. Sounds like some rock and roll band...
>
> Heavy Metal? Lead poisoning, perhaps? LOL
>
>> You don't do sock puppets? That's a riot.
>>
>
> Would be a riot, if all the ACCUSED sock puppets got together and
> attempted to compare notes. You would be there, so would Doc and TomBa,
> and 5sooth, and Gollum and a bevy of others you could probably name at
> the drop of your head. Hmm, the one with the hat on it. LOL
> And what about that Mac software developer you accused? He sure nipped
> your bud! LOL
>
> I did another purposeful spelling error in my last post. I'm
> disappointed you didn't catch it. LOL
>
> Mover
What mac software developer I accused? Are you talking about the Thoth guy?
I don't I've ever accused him of anything....or are you talking about someone
else?
Gollum; a flash from the past....are you still in touch with him (ha ha ha
ha)
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