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From: Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com>
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Subject: Re: PING! Uri
Date: 4 Nov 2009 00:35:02 -0600
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:21:14 -0800, Mover wrote
(in article <031120091921142465%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
> In article <0001HW.C714F7750010D22AB02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:42:56 -0800, Mover wrote
>> (in article <021120090042562883%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
>>
>>> In article <0001HW.C713A7300020EA4CB02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
>>> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:45:52 -0800, Mover wrote
>>>> (in article <011120091645525496%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
>>>>
>>>>> In article <Xns9CB6B83D38132ail2@216.40.28.85>, Uri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mover <Mover@Watch-Me.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:311020092145143408%Mover@Watch-Me.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <Xns9CB61574616F7mails@216.40.28.85>, Uri wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NP-f31 wrote in news:nbt9e5pdvs2ggdjs160nni9r7c0flo12lo@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I asked you to describe what qualities you'd seek in a paedophile
>>>>>>>>> hero and what such a hero would have to do to defy the world and
>>>>>>>>> snatch victory from it. What I got was a lot of invective and
>>>>>>>>> abuse. If I were to take a few moments to remove the hatred and
>>>>>>>>> insults from your post THIS is what you said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My concept has merit? thank you Doc, I feel better now with your
>>>>>>>>>> recognisement!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your words denote the 'notable' excess of self esteem you have. I
>>>>>>>>>> consider you quite stupid. Take that fact as the starting point of
>>>>>>>>>> our argues, think about it as YOUR chance to change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm all ears and eyes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have been lucky to have grown your ego in a place so compliant
>>>>>>>>>> with your reflections, but take my word that an environment with a
>>>>>>>>>> higher IQ would have torn you to pieces long time ago.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, life is a breeze for me. Everything comes to me SO easily.
>>>>>>>>> I never have a problem in the world. You have no idea how things
>>>>>>>>> are for me. You're quick to assume things, but far be it for anyone
>>>>>>>>> else to do so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And about me, well, I will remain in silence as long as I was able
>>>>>>>>>> to control the repulsion that characters like you or your friend
>>>>>>>>>> y-not inspire to me. It's spectacular anyway the big number of
>>>>>>>>>> semireligious figures one has to meet and bear throughout life. At
>>>>>>>>>> what point of our dear civilization did we reserve a place for all
>>>>>>>>>> these frauds? They have the mouth full of 'jesus he loves me',
>>>>>>>>>> being that assumption an abstraction of the true feeling: 'I love
>>>>>>>>>> myself' -oftenly too much and oftenly with no discernment-. And
>>>>>>>>>> through love, self love, is that they feel in position to believe
>>>>>>>>>> that they are better than the rest, and therefore that they can
>>>>>>>>>> correct anyone. And if they say 'I'm genuinely interested in your
>>>>>>>>>> disagreement', they are meaning 'I'm professionally interested in
>>>>>>>>>> correcting yourself'. Well, you are quite idiot and my english can
>>>>>>>>>> be improved but you got the idea, didn't you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think you're saying that my interest in your point of view is
>>>>>>>>> disingenuous. And you don't want to be preached to. Is that
>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another sort points: You can't stand an offer if you have nothing
>>>>>>>>>> to offer. My doubts are over your limits. I have not the lesser
>>>>>>>>>> interest in 'enlighting' yourself? Yes the opposite, but not by
>>>>>>>>>> you, obviously. And you question about the nature of my war at the
>>>>>>>>>> same time that claim to be 'mine in boylove'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, I've made no attempt to change your mind. I'm trying to get
>>>>>>>>> you to speak yours. I'd like to understand the root of your rage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not like you, so don't ever presume again to be like me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's easy because I have no idea what you're about. So far you
>>>>>>>>> have been full of unfocused anger that you'd like to hurl at me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To begin with, I'm not an hypocrite with leadership illusions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you explain in what way I'm a hypocrite? As for leadership
>>>>>>>>> illusions, this is my philosophy: I am a rugged individualist. I
>>>>>>>>> know what I want and what I believe in. I do what I think is right.
>>>>>>>>> Whether people follow or not is not a matter of concern to me. If I
>>>>>>>>> believe someone is wrong I speak my mind. If someone needs help, I
>>>>>>>>> generally lend a hand. I'm not perfect and I don't strive for
>>>>>>>>> perfection. I do my best.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Besides, I
>>>>>>>>>> can talk about exposition. I'm exposed to a world often hostile,
>>>>>>>>>> and I do without a picture of my family in my pocket.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps that is a direct result of the way you approach the world.
>>>>>>>>> Why does the fact that I'm a father bug you? I became a Dad before
>>>>>>>>> I realized I was a boylover.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tell us, dear Doc, how many
>>>>>>>>>> times did you hide yourself behind your marriage?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never. You don't know, you can only assume. My wife knows I am a
>>>>>>>>> boylover. My oldest son knows I am a boylover, my best friends know
>>>>>>>>> I am a boylover, my parents know too. Are you more out of the
>>>>>>>>> closet than me? I doubt it. Unless, of course, you were hauled
>>>>>>>>> before the courts because of something you did to a child, then
>>>>>>>>> EVERYONE knows about you being a pedophile, right? Have you
>>>>>>>>> voluntarliy admitted your secret to anyone close to you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How many times did you
>>>>>>>>>> hide your interest in boys behind a picture of your own children?
>>>>>>>>>> Now tell me that you never approached to an anonymous boy and told
>>>>>>>>>> him: 'I'm father of 2 little boys just like you...'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't approach anonymous boys. I smile at them from a respectful
>>>>>>>>> distance. One time when I did help a boy in trouble I said, 'I know
>>>>>>>>> I'm not your Dad, but I am a Dad; and nothing you could tell me
>>>>>>>>> would surprise me.' I'm not a predator Uri. When I see a boy, my
>>>>>>>>> first thought is not sexual. It is one of appreciation. In saying
>>>>>>>>> that I'm not judging anyone, simply refuting your implications with
>>>>>>>>> the truth about me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not the fraud you are, I don't
>>>>>>>>>> have such a useful mask as the one you allways wear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's an assumption I wouldn't make of another. How do you
>>>>>>>>> approach an anonymous boy?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'Pedohero' is disparaging, didn't you notice?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought it was clever invention. I wanted to be the first to say
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When Michael Jackson gave that famous interview he was near to be
>>>>>>>>>> hero, he exposed his feelings just like they were, knowing the
>>>>>>>>>> rejection he would rise. Lamentably, not even his fortune could
>>>>>>>>>> isolate him from such an opposition. The pressure drove him to
>>>>>>>>>> madness. He wanted to be a boy, to transform himself into a boy,
>>>>>>>>>> the only image of beauty he ever knew. To hide his persona he
>>>>>>>>>> bought a family like yours, my dear Doc. He bought your legitimate
>>>>>>>>>> mask and Mark Lester' sperm all in the same packet, isn't it cool?
>>>>>>>>>> And well, why all this peripheral deranged chatter? Oh yes, the
>>>>>>>>>> hero.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A hero is an executant of his own and true feelings, even when
>>>>>>>>>> those feelings aren't shared by any other person in the world. The
>>>>>>>>>> definition could approach the terms heroism and madness more than
>>>>>>>>>> we wish, except for the own definition of 'truth' and 'true
>>>>>>>>>> feelings'. Truth can be the same for everybody, and that's the key
>>>>>>>>>> and my end.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was about to be disappointed thinking that Michael Jackson was
>>>>>>>>> the best you could do. But then you gave me a pseudo-definition of
>>>>>>>>> what a pedophile hero would be to you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It comes down to being true to yourself no matter what others
>>>>>>>>> think. Right? I think what you described is the act of being noble.
>>>>>>>>> How does a pedophile being true to himself defy the world and
>>>>>>>>> snatch victory from it? I think the answer may lie in your usage of
>>>>>>>>> the word executant. One who 'performs' his own true feelings. What
>>>>>>>>> does that mean to you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Save your answer, I don't need it, do you need it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No answer, only more questions. Earlier you disparaged me by saying
>>>>>>>>> that I used so many words to say so little. I think the same
>>>>>>>>> applies to you. Your answer is pretty lame. If you'd like to be a
>>>>>>>>> paedophile hero you're going to need more than just your 'super
>>>>>>>>> insulting powers'. That and a cool suit wouldn't even make you a
>>>>>>>>> comic book hero. Heroes lead, and they need to give others a reason
>>>>>>>>> to follow. If I'm all the BL world has for a hero, then as a group
>>>>>>>>> we're screwed, right? So, why don't you REALLY speak your mind and
>>>>>>>>> lead rather than bitch at others from the sidelines. You act like
>>>>>>>>> it's a piece of cake.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the difference between you and me. I took a stance and
>>>>>>>>> support it. I talk the talk and walk the walk. I'm out here taking
>>>>>>>>> bullets form wannabes like you. You want the mantle? Come and take
>>>>>>>>> it. You want to lead? Then step out front. Come out of the shadows
>>>>>>>>> proud paedophile and be the point man. Lead, maybe I'll follow.
>>>>>>>>> Start your revolution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise shut the fuck up and quit whining.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Isn't it fabulous the -notable again- number of deaths that
>>>>>>>>>> devastate the 'boylover world'? How many, how many? Our boys are
>>>>>>>>>> dying, how tragic! the devil couldn't wait another day to have
>>>>>>>>>> those boys in his arms. Maybe our sperm is carrier of some kind of
>>>>>>>>>> terrible curse, who knows, the list of tragic and early deaths is
>>>>>>>>>> big enough to question ourselves. Duncan, Lloyd, a guy named Kolya,
>>>>>>>>>> Kidhacker, the old Y-not, John the latin kid, a guy named MTB,
>>>>>>>>>> Vladik... Jesuschrist, and the ingenuous boylovers believe, without
>>>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt, anything that is said to them. Some people fake
>>>>>>>>>> that they are children, some fake that they are moribund. It's a
>>>>>>>>>> kind of lie very recurrent here, the boylover groups love drama. My
>>>>>>>>>> oppinion is that neither boylovers nor lovedboys have a premature
>>>>>>>>>> date with death, but in any case with lie. Take it the way you
>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I truly hope that Vladik isn't dead. I know you meant to be
>>>>>>>>> sarcastic, but boys die too. If he is alive and well that would
>>>>>>>>> thrill me. He gave us joy. Did he give you no joy? If he IS dead,
>>>>>>>>> it is a tragedy, isn't it? The rate of death in the boylove world
>>>>>>>>> is the same rate of death as in the general population. But we have
>>>>>>>>> fewer numbers and it hits us harder. And yes, a lot of BLs are
>>>>>>>>> Drama Queens. Sometimes the deaths are real, sometimes they are
>>>>>>>>> rumours. It is quite clear that Duncan and Lloyd are alive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isn't 'whining' a very recurrent expression from this group, this
>>>>>>>> group of kids? Logic. Childish expressions and ideas from a bunch of
>>>>>>>> children.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And about your post, I told you, I have too few respect for you to
>>>>>>>> waste my time answering your stupid blahblah. Give me something
>>>>>>>> intelligent and I'll answer. But how did you dare to ask me if I want
>>>>>>>> your mantle, after all I said? And you call my anger 'unfocused'? But
>>>>>>>> whathefuck, who I'm talking to? You must be very stupid, more than I
>>>>>>>> imagined. I never recognized your 'mantle', neither the mantle of
>>>>>>>> those who you define as heroes. The heroes are leaders? Come on, my
>>>>>>>> dear Doc, you expose yourself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see your cockroache Y-not very active lately, more than usual. So
>>>>>>>> he didn't realized that I consider him an insect? Mmmm.. Or maybe he
>>>>>>>> doesn't want to believe. He fools himself then :). Come on, my dear
>>>>>>>> Doc, he wants to be your closest friend, you smell 'familiar' x) to
>>>>>>>> him. I think he's a little in love with you. I remember to have seen
>>>>>>>> something like that before. But where? Oh yes, at school, the cool
>>>>>>>> boy and his lackey, a classic couple
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Funny you complaining about "whining" in this group. There would be
>>>>>>> much less if you didn't do it. LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doc and Y Not were enemies. You don't look very intelligent yourself,
>>>>>>> saying they were even nice to each other, much less friends. And since
>>>>>>> Y Not is dead, they can never kiss and make up. What does a ghost
>>>>>>> taste like? LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is it you say Doc is too stupid to be worth posting to, when you
>>>>>>> are posting to him? Is it because you are equally, if not more, stupid
>>>>>>> yourself?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doc is wasting his time with you, but most of us know why, and why he
>>>>>>> posts in the Fort in general. The real question is why are YOU posting
>>>>>>> here and to Doc? Is it because you like looking stupid? LOL
>>>>>>> It sure doesn't look like you are trying to accomplish anything
>>>>>>> useful. Except to help make fun of you. LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mover
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funfunfunfunfun, forgodshake, what a loser. Being you a lunatic
>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>> nervous and with a miserable sense of humor, probably you are the only
>>>>>> buffon here who doesn't get fun at all. So you are too pathetic to make
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> smile, too blunt to get me angry, and too stupid to excite my
>>>>>> intelligence.
>>>>>> A waste, as said before.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why should I want to excite anything about you? Why should I do
>>>>> ANYTHING to please you? Why should anybody here do anything you want?
>>>>> Give me a reason. Any reason. You haven't yet. Not one.
>>>>> So, I don't feel like it. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Most, if not all, of my humor here is understandable only by someone
>>>>> fluent in English, and much of that only someone born to English will
>>>>> understand, and some of that only a very educated person will fully
>>>>> understand. Translation programs won't work. Therefore, that you don't
>>>>> understand or appreciate my humor is to be expected, as you obviously
>>>>> are not as skilled with English as you presumably are with your native
>>>>> language. What might be interesting, is why you don't know this.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, an admitted depressed looser, you, calling somebody here
>>>>> who at least tries to be funny a loser, is very funny. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Mover
>>>>
>>>> Fluent in english? Check
>>>>
>>>> Native born speaker? Check
>>>>
>>>> Very educated? Check
>>>
>>> Who, you? Me? Somebody else? A combo platter?
>>> You didn't say.
>>>
>>>> I still think your humor sucks....
>>>
>>> Not "electrifying"? LOL
>>>
>>> But at least it doesn't suck dead people! LOL
>>> Or swallow doll heads. Ugh!
>>>
>>> For someone who doesn't like my humor, you strangely act to encourage
>>> quite a lot of it by your posts. In my own very important opinion
>>> (LOL), that's funny!
>>>
>>>> And in the "aren't I clever catching typos" department I'm not clear
>>>> what
>>>>
>>>> "....an admitted depressed looser..." means. Looser in what way?
>>>> Skeletally?
>>>
>>> Make no bones about it. LOL
>>>
>>> Thank you for that lovely straight line. I was hoping you would catch
>>> that one "error", since you expressed interest in doing that,
>>> "especially" this kind. LOL Notice I spelled it right the next time?
>>> This is all Uri is good for; giving me an opportunity to encourage
>>> friends to play.
>>>
>>> There's one thing about my humor you should have noticed. This is not
>>> copied joke posting. It's all spur of the moment, created as I type it,
>>> and I type very fast. I think some people appreciate it, and the effort
>>> and skill that goes into it. But, that doesn't matter too much. What
>>> matters most to me is I like it, and enjoy reading some of what I write
>>> again sometimes.
>>>
>>> When I suggested another thread, I didn't mean make an already long
>>> thread longer!
>>> I think you knew that too.
>>> Are you messin' wit' me! LOL
>>>
>>> Anyway, PLAY with me some more? LOL
>>>
>>> Mover
>>>
>>> Ps Disappointing the attack poetry has dried up.
>>
>> So you deliberately put the typo in so that I would catch it?
>
> I do so declare. And did. Just as I deliberately pushed all your other
> buttons whenever I wanted to. It's SO easy. LOL
> Need me to repeat that, and be redundant, too? LOL
>
>> You are a fucking riot. Do you think anyone actually believes that?
>
> Akshually, I don't think anyone cares but you, just you. Notice all the
> notice? LOL
>
>> Hey.
>> You fucked up. It happens to all of us.
>
> You more than me. LOL
>
>> Remember those times you forgot to
>> change your header when you were posting as one your puppets? That was so
>> fun...
>
> I don't do puppets. Do you?
>
>> If I had shitty jokes like yours (are they even jokes??) I'd be relieved to
>> attribute them to someone else. But, you openley admit that you have
>> "created" them.
>
> I did. And I would do it again, too.
> They'er MINE, all MINE.
> See? I did. LOL
> I like them.
>
>> Me? Mess with you. Perish the thought.
>
> But you are just now, and every time you post to me, weather or not it
> clouds your day to know it, and every time you rein on somebody else
> that I can horse around with. LOL
>
>> Why don't you start a new thread if you feel the need. I might suggest the
>> subject line: Shit on Y-Not and his Deputies
>
> How about Morpheus and his mental disorders? LOL
> But how can I make fun of a post if I'm the first poster in the thread?
> I'm not lookin to do that. LOL
>
> Mover
Morpheus and his Mental Disorders
I like it. Sounds like some rock and roll band...
You don't do sock puppets? That's a riot.
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