On 31 Oct 2009 20:08:03 -0500, Uri <ail2> wrote:
>NP-f31 wrote in news:nbt9e5pdvs2ggdjs160nni9r7c0flo12lo@4ax.com:
>
>> I asked you to describe what qualities you'd seek in a paedophile hero
>> and what such a hero would have to do to defy the world and snatch
>> victory from it. What I got was a lot of invective and abuse. If I
>> were to take a few moments to remove the hatred and insults from your
>> post THIS is what you said:
>>
>>>My concept has merit? thank you Doc, I feel better now with your
>>>recognisement!
>>
>>>Your words denote the 'notable' excess of self esteem you have. I
>>>consider you quite stupid. Take that fact as the starting point of our
>>>argues, think about it as YOUR chance to change.
>>
>> I'm all ears and eyes.
>>
>>>You have been lucky to have grown your ego in a place so compliant
>>>with your reflections, but take my word that an environment with a
>>>higher IQ would have torn you to pieces long time ago.
>>
>> Oh yeah, life is a breeze for me. Everything comes to me SO easily. I
>> never have a problem in the world. You have no idea how things are for
>> me. You're quick to assume things, but far be it for anyone else to do
>> so.
>>
>>>And about me, well, I will remain in silence as long as I was able to
>>>control the repulsion that characters like you or your friend y-not
>>>inspire to me. It's spectacular anyway the big number of semireligious
>>>figures one has to meet and bear throughout life. At what point of our
>>>dear civilization did we reserve a place for all these frauds? They
>>>have the mouth full of 'jesus he loves me', being that assumption an
>>>abstraction of the true feeling: 'I love myself' -oftenly too much and
>>>oftenly with no discernment-. And through love, self love, is that
>>>they feel in position to believe that they are better than the rest,
>>>and therefore that they can correct anyone. And if they say 'I'm
>>>genuinely interested in your disagreement', they are meaning 'I'm
>>>professionally interested in correcting yourself'. Well, you are quite
>>>idiot and my english can be improved but you got the idea, didn't you?
>>
>> I think you're saying that my interest in your point of view is
>> disingenuous. And you don't want to be preached to. Is that correct?
>>
>>>Another sort points: You can't stand an offer if you have nothing to
>>>offer. My doubts are over your limits. I have not the lesser interest
>>>in 'enlighting' yourself? Yes the opposite, but not by you, obviously.
>>>And you question about the nature of my war at the same time that
>>>claim to be 'mine in boylove'.
>>
>> Well, I've made no attempt to change your mind. I'm trying to get you
>> to speak yours. I'd like to understand the root of your rage.
>>
>>>I'm not like you, so don't ever presume again to be like me.
>>
>> That's easy because I have no idea what you're about. So far you have
>> been full of unfocused anger that you'd like to hurl at me.
>>
>>>To begin with, I'm not an hypocrite with leadership illusions.
>>
>> Can you explain in what way I'm a hypocrite? As for leadership
>> illusions, this is my philosophy: I am a rugged individualist. I know
>> what I want and what I believe in. I do what I think is right. Whether
>> people follow or not is not a matter of concern to me. If I believe
>> someone is wrong I speak my mind. If someone needs help, I generally
>> lend a hand. I'm not perfect and I don't strive for perfection. I do
>> my best.
>>
>>>Besides, I
>>>can talk about exposition. I'm exposed to a world often hostile, and I
>>>do without a picture of my family in my pocket.
>>
>> Perhaps that is a direct result of the way you approach the world. Why
>> does the fact that I'm a father bug you? I became a Dad before I
>> realized I was a boylover.
>>
>>>Tell us, dear Doc, how many
>>>times did you hide yourself behind your marriage?
>>
>> Never. You don't know, you can only assume. My wife knows I am a
>> boylover. My oldest son knows I am a boylover, my best friends know I
>> am a boylover, my parents know too. Are you more out of the closet
>> than me? I doubt it. Unless, of course, you were hauled before the
>> courts because of something you did to a child, then EVERYONE knows
>> about you being a pedophile, right? Have you voluntarliy admitted your
>> secret to anyone close to you?
>>
>>>How many times did you
>>>hide your interest in boys behind a picture of your own children? Now
>>>tell me that you never approached to an anonymous boy and told him:
>>>'I'm father of 2 little boys just like you...'
>>
>> I don't approach anonymous boys. I smile at them from a respectful
>> distance. One time when I did help a boy in trouble I said, 'I know
>> I'm not your Dad, but I am a Dad; and nothing you could tell me would
>> surprise me.' I'm not a predator Uri. When I see a boy, my first
>> thought is not sexual. It is one of appreciation. In saying that I'm
>> not judging anyone, simply refuting your implications with the truth
>> about me.
>>
>>>No, I'm not the fraud you are, I don't
>>>have such a useful mask as the one you allways wear.
>>
>> That's an assumption I wouldn't make of another. How do you approach
>> an anonymous boy?
>>
>>>'Pedohero' is disparaging, didn't you notice?
>>
>> I thought it was clever invention. I wanted to be the first to say it.
>>
>>>When Michael Jackson gave that famous interview he was near to be
>>>hero, he exposed his feelings just like they were, knowing the
>>>rejection he would rise. Lamentably, not even his fortune could
>>>isolate him from such an opposition. The pressure drove him to
>>>madness. He wanted to be a boy, to transform himself into a boy, the
>>>only image of beauty he ever knew. To hide his persona he bought a
>>>family like yours, my dear Doc. He bought your legitimate mask and
>>>Mark Lester' sperm all in the same packet, isn't it cool? And well,
>>>why all this peripheral deranged chatter? Oh yes, the hero.
>>
>>>A hero is an executant of his own and true feelings, even when those
>>>feelings aren't shared by any other person in the world. The
>>>definition could approach the terms heroism and madness more than we
>>>wish, except for the own definition of 'truth' and 'true feelings'.
>>>Truth can be the same for everybody, and that's the key and my end.
>>
>> I was about to be disappointed thinking that Michael Jackson was the
>> best you could do. But then you gave me a pseudo-definition of what a
>> pedophile hero would be to you.
>>
>> It comes down to being true to yourself no matter what others think.
>> Right? I think what you described is the act of being noble. How does
>> a pedophile being true to himself defy the world and snatch victory
>> from it? I think the answer may lie in your usage of the word
>> executant. One who 'performs' his own true feelings. What does that
>> mean to you?
>>
>>>Save your answer, I don't need it, do you need it?
>>
>> No answer, only more questions. Earlier you disparaged me by saying
>> that I used so many words to say so little. I think the same applies
>> to you. Your answer is pretty lame. If you'd like to be a paedophile
>> hero you're going to need more than just your 'super insulting
>> powers'. That and a cool suit wouldn't even make you a comic book
>> hero. Heroes lead, and they need to give others a reason to follow. If
>> I'm all the BL world has for a hero, then as a group we're screwed,
>> right? So, why don't you REALLY speak your mind and lead rather than
>> bitch at others from the sidelines. You act like it's a piece of cake.
>>
>> Here is the difference between you and me. I took a stance and support
>> it. I talk the talk and walk the walk. I'm out here taking bullets
>> form wannabes like you. You want the mantle? Come and take it. You
>> want to lead? Then step out front. Come out of the shadows proud
>> paedophile and be the point man. Lead, maybe I'll follow. Start your
>> revolution.
>>
>> Otherwise shut the fuck up and quit whining.
>>
>> Doc
<snip the part Uri ignored>
>
>Isn't 'whining' a very recurrent expression from this group, this group
>of kids? Logic. Childish expressions and ideas from a bunch of children.
I call 'em as I see 'em. You're whining, or should I say whinging?
>And about your post, I told you, I have too few respect for you to waste
>my time answering your stupid blahblah. Give me something intelligent
>and I'll answer.
You won't answer because you don't have one. You avoided the sticky
truths I laid out for you because you don't want to fight on THAT
battlefield, do you? You know your arguments won't hold water compared
to mine.
>But how did you dare to ask me if I want your mantle,
>after all I said?
I didn't offer it, I said come and take it if you want it. The mantle
of leadership is earned. I'm not saying I have it, but that is your
implication. Do you see me wearing the mantle of hero?
>And you call my anger 'unfocused'? But whathefuck, who
>I'm talking to? You must be very stupid, more than I imagined. I never
>recognized your 'mantle', neither the mantle of those who you define as
>heroes. The heroes are leaders? Come on, my dear Doc, you expose
>yourself.
Look, you brought up the concept of a paedophile hero and now you're
backpedalling from it. It's there on the pedestal, Uri. Go and take
it. Lead us. Show us what a paedophile hero is and does. Cause me to
admire you, teach me how I can change and be better.
It's easy to sit on the sidelines and bitch. Name calling and insults,
very mature Uri. If you don't like my example, show us a better one.
If you don't like the job I'm doing, do better. If you don't like what
I have to say, say something more profound. What do you have to offer?
Anything?
I'm waiting.
>I see your cockroache Y-not very active lately, more than usual. So he
>didn't realized that I consider him an insect? Mmmm.. Or maybe he
>doesn't want to believe. He fools himself then :). Come on, my dear Doc,
>he wants to be your closest friend, you smell 'familiar' x) to him. I
>think he's a little in love with you. I remember to have seen something
>like that before. But where? Oh yes, at school, the cool boy and his
>lackey, a classic couple
I have nothing to say about that individual.
Doc
NP-f31
Not holding my breath for Uri to man up....
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