NP-f31 wrote in news:nbt9e5pdvs2ggdjs160nni9r7c0flo12lo@4ax.com:
> I asked you to describe what qualities you'd seek in a paedophile hero
> and what such a hero would have to do to defy the world and snatch
> victory from it. What I got was a lot of invective and abuse. If I
> were to take a few moments to remove the hatred and insults from your
> post THIS is what you said:
>
>>My concept has merit? thank you Doc, I feel better now with your
>>recognisement!
>
>>Your words denote the 'notable' excess of self esteem you have. I
>>consider you quite stupid. Take that fact as the starting point of our
>>argues, think about it as YOUR chance to change.
>
> I'm all ears and eyes.
>
>>You have been lucky to have grown your ego in a place so compliant
>>with your reflections, but take my word that an environment with a
>>higher IQ would have torn you to pieces long time ago.
>
> Oh yeah, life is a breeze for me. Everything comes to me SO easily. I
> never have a problem in the world. You have no idea how things are for
> me. You're quick to assume things, but far be it for anyone else to do
> so.
>
>>And about me, well, I will remain in silence as long as I was able to
>>control the repulsion that characters like you or your friend y-not
>>inspire to me. It's spectacular anyway the big number of semireligious
>>figures one has to meet and bear throughout life. At what point of our
>>dear civilization did we reserve a place for all these frauds? They
>>have the mouth full of 'jesus he loves me', being that assumption an
>>abstraction of the true feeling: 'I love myself' -oftenly too much and
>>oftenly with no discernment-. And through love, self love, is that
>>they feel in position to believe that they are better than the rest,
>>and therefore that they can correct anyone. And if they say 'I'm
>>genuinely interested in your disagreement', they are meaning 'I'm
>>professionally interested in correcting yourself'. Well, you are quite
>>idiot and my english can be improved but you got the idea, didn't you?
>
> I think you're saying that my interest in your point of view is
> disingenuous. And you don't want to be preached to. Is that correct?
>
>>Another sort points: You can't stand an offer if you have nothing to
>>offer. My doubts are over your limits. I have not the lesser interest
>>in 'enlighting' yourself? Yes the opposite, but not by you, obviously.
>>And you question about the nature of my war at the same time that
>>claim to be 'mine in boylove'.
>
> Well, I've made no attempt to change your mind. I'm trying to get you
> to speak yours. I'd like to understand the root of your rage.
>
>>I'm not like you, so don't ever presume again to be like me.
>
> That's easy because I have no idea what you're about. So far you have
> been full of unfocused anger that you'd like to hurl at me.
>
>>To begin with, I'm not an hypocrite with leadership illusions.
>
> Can you explain in what way I'm a hypocrite? As for leadership
> illusions, this is my philosophy: I am a rugged individualist. I know
> what I want and what I believe in. I do what I think is right. Whether
> people follow or not is not a matter of concern to me. If I believe
> someone is wrong I speak my mind. If someone needs help, I generally
> lend a hand. I'm not perfect and I don't strive for perfection. I do
> my best.
>
>>Besides, I
>>can talk about exposition. I'm exposed to a world often hostile, and I
>>do without a picture of my family in my pocket.
>
> Perhaps that is a direct result of the way you approach the world. Why
> does the fact that I'm a father bug you? I became a Dad before I
> realized I was a boylover.
>
>>Tell us, dear Doc, how many
>>times did you hide yourself behind your marriage?
>
> Never. You don't know, you can only assume. My wife knows I am a
> boylover. My oldest son knows I am a boylover, my best friends know I
> am a boylover, my parents know too. Are you more out of the closet
> than me? I doubt it. Unless, of course, you were hauled before the
> courts because of something you did to a child, then EVERYONE knows
> about you being a pedophile, right? Have you voluntarliy admitted your
> secret to anyone close to you?
>
>>How many times did you
>>hide your interest in boys behind a picture of your own children? Now
>>tell me that you never approached to an anonymous boy and told him:
>>'I'm father of 2 little boys just like you...'
>
> I don't approach anonymous boys. I smile at them from a respectful
> distance. One time when I did help a boy in trouble I said, 'I know
> I'm not your Dad, but I am a Dad; and nothing you could tell me would
> surprise me.' I'm not a predator Uri. When I see a boy, my first
> thought is not sexual. It is one of appreciation. In saying that I'm
> not judging anyone, simply refuting your implications with the truth
> about me.
>
>>No, I'm not the fraud you are, I don't
>>have such a useful mask as the one you allways wear.
>
> That's an assumption I wouldn't make of another. How do you approach
> an anonymous boy?
>
>>'Pedohero' is disparaging, didn't you notice?
>
> I thought it was clever invention. I wanted to be the first to say it.
>
>>When Michael Jackson gave that famous interview he was near to be
>>hero, he exposed his feelings just like they were, knowing the
>>rejection he would rise. Lamentably, not even his fortune could
>>isolate him from such an opposition. The pressure drove him to
>>madness. He wanted to be a boy, to transform himself into a boy, the
>>only image of beauty he ever knew. To hide his persona he bought a
>>family like yours, my dear Doc. He bought your legitimate mask and
>>Mark Lester' sperm all in the same packet, isn't it cool? And well,
>>why all this peripheral deranged chatter? Oh yes, the hero.
>
>>A hero is an executant of his own and true feelings, even when those
>>feelings aren't shared by any other person in the world. The
>>definition could approach the terms heroism and madness more than we
>>wish, except for the own definition of 'truth' and 'true feelings'.
>>Truth can be the same for everybody, and that's the key and my end.
>
> I was about to be disappointed thinking that Michael Jackson was the
> best you could do. But then you gave me a pseudo-definition of what a
> pedophile hero would be to you.
>
> It comes down to being true to yourself no matter what others think.
> Right? I think what you described is the act of being noble. How does
> a pedophile being true to himself defy the world and snatch victory
> from it? I think the answer may lie in your usage of the word
> executant. One who 'performs' his own true feelings. What does that
> mean to you?
>
>>Save your answer, I don't need it, do you need it?
>
> No answer, only more questions. Earlier you disparaged me by saying
> that I used so many words to say so little. I think the same applies
> to you. Your answer is pretty lame. If you'd like to be a paedophile
> hero you're going to need more than just your 'super insulting
> powers'. That and a cool suit wouldn't even make you a comic book
> hero. Heroes lead, and they need to give others a reason to follow. If
> I'm all the BL world has for a hero, then as a group we're screwed,
> right? So, why don't you REALLY speak your mind and lead rather than
> bitch at others from the sidelines. You act like it's a piece of cake.
>
> Here is the difference between you and me. I took a stance and support
> it. I talk the talk and walk the walk. I'm out here taking bullets
> form wannabes like you. You want the mantle? Come and take it. You
> want to lead? Then step out front. Come out of the shadows proud
> paedophile and be the point man. Lead, maybe I'll follow. Start your
> revolution.
>
> Otherwise shut the fuck up and quit whining.
>
> Doc
>
>>P.S. Isn't it fabulous the -notable again- number of deaths that
>>devastate the 'boylover world'? How many, how many? Our boys are
>>dying, how tragic! the devil couldn't wait another day to have those
>>boys in his arms. Maybe our sperm is carrier of some kind of terrible
>>curse, who knows, the list of tragic and early deaths is big enough to
>>question ourselves. Duncan, Lloyd, a guy named Kolya, Kidhacker, the
>>old Y-not, John the latin kid, a guy named MTB, Vladik... Jesuschrist,
>>and the ingenuous boylovers believe, without reasonable doubt,
>>anything that is said to them. Some people fake that they are
>>children, some fake that they are moribund. It's a kind of lie very
>>recurrent here, the boylover groups love drama. My oppinion is that
>>neither boylovers nor lovedboys have a premature date with death, but
>>in any case with lie. Take it the way you like.
>
> I truly hope that Vladik isn't dead. I know you meant to be sarcastic,
> but boys die too. If he is alive and well that would thrill me. He
> gave us joy. Did he give you no joy? If he IS dead, it is a tragedy,
> isn't it? The rate of death in the boylove world is the same rate of
> death as in the general population. But we have fewer numbers and it
> hits us harder. And yes, a lot of BLs are Drama Queens. Sometimes the
> deaths are real, sometimes they are rumours. It is quite clear that
> Duncan and Lloyd are alive.
>
>
Isn't 'whining' a very recurrent expression from this group, this group
of kids? Logic. Childish expressions and ideas from a bunch of children.
And about your post, I told you, I have too few respect for you to waste
my time answering your stupid blahblah. Give me something intelligent
and I'll answer. But how did you dare to ask me if I want your mantle,
after all I said? And you call my anger 'unfocused'? But whathefuck, who
I'm talking to? You must be very stupid, more than I imagined. I never
recognized your 'mantle', neither the mantle of those who you define as
heroes. The heroes are leaders? Come on, my dear Doc, you expose
yourself.
I see your cockroache Y-not very active lately, more than usual. So he
didn't realized that I consider him an insect? Mmmm.. Or maybe he
doesn't want to believe. He fools himself then :). Come on, my dear Doc,
he wants to be your closest friend, you smell 'familiar' x) to him. I
think he's a little in love with you. I remember to have seen something
like that before. But where? Oh yes, at school, the cool boy and his
lackey, a classic couple
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