On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 03:44:50 -0700, Awake wrote
(in article <3acg449dm7oaagqie6qak3cunmin0teoe9423@@4ax.com>):
> In article <00154669$0$13209$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Pig Castrator
> Hatchet Mus.cled George <PigCastrator@SlaughterHouse.com> wrote:
>
> Considering Grant's posting history, and his final statement to you in
> his post, I doubt he will reply to you.
> Therefore, I will attempt to appraise you of some of your
> misapprehensions of his communication.
>
>> "+Grant" <+Grant@grant.grant> wrote in message
>> news:Grant-me-that-3108092@Grant.Grant...
>> <snip>
>>> OKay lets get one thing straight. I don't know about any "cultist"
>>> mumbo-jumbo and I don't care to. I don't have a fort ID. That should be
>>> enough for you to lay off that fucking propaganda with me.
>> <snip>
>>
>> But... .. but MORON +Grant,
>> You have just posted this NP Cultist propaganda BS:
>
> I have yet to see any posted anywhere. Consider that it may exist only
> in your own mind. He doesn't have a Fort ID, so he isn't a member of
> your non-extant "cult", and therefore doesn't post what you consider to
> be part of that cult.
>
>>> Tommy agrees with Wizs choice of successor so its official.
>>>
>>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>>
>> <snip>
>>> I agree he rewrites the words of other security posters and doesn't
>>> equal them but he is right this time and you are not. I hope you are a
>>> big enough man to accept this.
>> <snip>
>>
>> What? That I and the other Fort visitors that are currently numbering
>> in the thousands should believe ANY of the bullshit that's written by
>> a brain-dead NP Cultist?
>> It most certainly currently appears that thousands of Fort visitors do
>> not.
>>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>
> I think you would benefit from some appropriate medication for that
> condition. This much rolling shouldn't be good for your digestion.
>
> At present, there is no possible way to know how many people visit the
> Fort, beyond counting the posters and their nicknames. That would
> likely not be thousands per day.
>
> It is not possible to know how many of the visitors to the website in
> contention arrived there by clicking on the link in your post. Not even
> the method described by Grant would reveal this with any degree of
> accuracy. The number you quote as being Fort members is specious, and
> is only a count per time interval and nothing more, of *all* visitors
> to the site. No visitor source information can be derived from it by
> ordinary means. By that, I mean you would have to be in law enforcement
> and monitoring the site and use Grant's method in order to produce even
> a vague approximation of actual Fort visitors to the site.
> If effect, by claiming to know the numbers of Fort visitors to the
> site, you are admitting to having information that only the law could
> have. That is unwise, and would serve to cause our wise visitors here
> to disregard everything you communicate.
>
>> <snip>
>>>>>>>> with the fraud authority of NP badge assigner,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tommy agrees with Wizs choice of successor so its official.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More cultist nonsense. THAT is pure NP Cultist propaganda
>>>> BS. And I will make damn sure (from now on) that ALL Fort
>>>> visitors know it.
>>>
>>> It is not nonsense only the truth. Accept it or lie. Which is it to be?
>> <snip>
>>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>
> You have a strange sense of humor.
>
>> <snip>
>>> KH isn't here and won't come back as long as you attack posting of good
>>> security advice which he supports. He left because of all the personal
>>> attacks going on and it hurt him to see the fort he loved so much
>>> (saved his life when he joined) reduced to a stupid catfight group.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>
> At KidHacker? Why?
> He has expressed similar sentiments in past posts, so this account
> seems reasonable.
>
>> <snip>
>>> I don't waste my time with nonsense. Thats why I don't post very often.
>>> Calling what you don't like "nonsense" over and over again doesn't make
>>> it so and doesn't make you look too good either.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>
> Laughing at wisdom doesn't improve your image.
>
>>
>> <snip>
>>> So why do I support him now? Because I support any post of good
>>> security info that gets attacked. For the good of the fort.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Like with the "security info" that Doc posted as the Fort FAQ
>> (actually NP Cultist propaganda) that was filled with dangerous
>> nics and Doc was telling the Fort visitors to contact them?
>
> Grant admitted Doc's posts aren't perfect. Do you think one mistake in
> a large post should invalidate the entire post of important
> information? That isn't reasonable.
>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>>
>> <snip>
>>>>>> Like an Internet link to imgsrc.ru?
>>>> Some of the Fort readers of this message are laughing
>>>> their ass off.
>>>
>>> I think they would have trouble sitting down to their computer to post
>>> to tell us then. LOL
>>> Give them some superglue? Would repair the crack too. LOL
>> <snip>
>>
>> Gee whiz, are you now scorning the thousands of Fort visitors?
>
> It's obvious he was laughing at only you and your imaginary numbers.
>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>>
>> <snip>
>>>>>> Like an Internet link to:
>>>> "Johnie" Proudly Presents
>>>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~johnie/jpp.html
>>>> More Fort readers of this message are laughing their
>>>> ass off.
>> <snip>
>>
>> What? You skipped over the above example.
>
> And rightly so. It served no purpose in your defense. Doc offered a
> general warning. Specific sites are irrelevant to your opposition to
> his position. In any case, that site is certainly monitored by the law
> of many countries, for obvious reasons, and could be taken over at any
> time, as could any site that may be posted here. In fact, posting a
> link to site like this could actually cause such a thing to happen.
>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>>
>> <snip>
>>> No I was not among them. I'm not sure of the time frame but I was
>>> probably fighting a *real* war then for my (and your) country and lost
>>> buddies and parts of me so *you* can be free to do all this. It looks
>>> like you recovered from your little battle (if it was) but I never will
>>> recover from mine.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Are you now attempting some sympathy getting words? And
>> do you really think that you are the only person that has served
>> in the Armed Forces of their country? And do you really think
>> that this is the appropriate place to be discussing this in an
>> international newsgroup with Fort visitors from around the world?
>
> You asked and he answered. If you don't like his answers, don't ask.
>
> You missed the obvious point of that paragraph. He was not expressing a
> desire for sympathy that he knew you couldn't give, but asking you to
> have perspective. He tried to show you that your example of Usenet war
> is nothing compared to real life and death war.
>
> You of all people should be the last to question what is appropriate to
> post here, considering how many kill filters your various identities
> inhabit.
>
>> <snip>
>>> I was going to kill myself... .. .
>> <snip>
>>
>> I'm not going to go there. And you have got to be one of the more
>> stupid dudes if you think that the Fort can cure any of your ills.
>> And you even mentioned the Fort freak Y-Not. Wow!
>
> Every BL who visits the Fort has his loneliness assuaged by at least
> some small amount. That constitutes help.
> The Fort is its people. People can help people. Ergo, he could have
> been helped in some memorable way. Many posters have said they have
> been helped by other posters, emotionally, psychologically, and
> materially. I doubt they all lied about it.
>
>> <snip>
>>> Do you
>>> really want to be responsible for our people ignoring good security
>>> advice and going to prison? I hope not but it looks like you do. Please
>>> change your mind about this.
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Rolling on the floor & laughing my ass off!
>
> This looks as if you do want people to be arrested. Why?
>
>> <snip>
>>> There is something I will say again. We never really know who posts
>>> here. Impostors could post web links in the names of well known BLs
>>> (again. they have before) and we might never know the difference. Just
>>> this reason alone (if we have to ignore all the other more technical
>>> reasons) is good enough justification not to click on them. I hope you
>>> can agree.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Any and all security measures that I use sure as fuck did not come
>> from any brain-dead NP Cultists.
>
> Good security measures are independent of politics and other personal
> issues.
> If yours are better, share them. I doubt they exist. Would you care to
> prove otherwise?
>
>>>
>>> I don't think I have anything left to tell you about this except I hope
>>> we can be friends not enemies. *All* of us.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Grant
>>
>> I don't think so.
>> I do NOT like posters that attempt to play on the sympathy of
>> readers. Nor do I like posters that post that they like the Fort freak
>> Y-Not. Nor do I like posters that support the brain-dead bullshit of
>> the remaining NP Cultists.
>>
>> Pig Castrator Hatchet Mus.cled George
>
> Here you express pure selfishness. You would hurt everyone here if you
> could, because of your personal dislikes. Do you think this is an
> effective way to garner the respect you so ardently crave?
>
> Grant doesn't post like Y Not, or he wouldn't have stopped posting to
> you, and would continue to "help" you until everyone here became sick
> again at his wasted tortuously longwinded efforts.
> At present, no one posts like Y Not. I consider that to be a good
> thing. His time is past.
>
> I would wager you didn't know you played on MY sympathy.
> Your posts over the years have shown that you are in possession of an
> above average intelligence and a caring nature, however rare those
> positive attributes have been displayed. Therefore, your frequent
> periods of desperate need to be as stupid, heartless, and destructive
> as you can be (very successfully I might add, judging by the reduction
> in picture posting wherever you do this), generates in me sincere
> sympathy and compassion for your suffering, caused by whatever your
> mental malady may be, that drives you to behave as you do here and now,
> and very often in the past.
>
> In closing, I offer to you another addition to your boy sports list:
> Dressage.
>
>
> I know I'm Awake. Do you know you?
Awake???
You're shitting me.
I thought Y-Not fucking left.
No such luck, right Grant? Sigh.....
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