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From: +Grant <+Grant@grant.grant>
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Subject: Re: Safety of clicking on hyperlinks
Date: 3 Sep 2009 00:26:01 -0500
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In article <20090902043811.71E1D6804D@fleegle.mixmin.net>, Baal
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Thanks for your post. Sad but important info.
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> NP-f31 wrote in alt.fan.prettyboy on Tuesday 01 September 2009 03:09 in
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> > ... I posted to warn people about the dangers of clicking on hyperlinks.
>
> The FBI (among others) has long used 'honeypots' such as these to ensare
> the unwary. One such example is documented at:
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html
>
> March 20, 2008 4:00 AM PDT
> FBI posts fake hyperlinks to snare child porn suspects
> by Declan McCullagh
>
> Screen snapshot: This now-defunct site is reportedly where an FBI
> undercover agent posted hyperlinks purporting to be illegal videos.
> Clicking the links brought a raid from the Feds.
>
> The FBI has recently adopted a novel investigative technique: posting
> hyperlinks that purport to be illegal videos of minors having sex, and
> then raiding the homes of anyone willing to click on them.
>
> Undercover FBI agents used this hyperlink-enticement technique, which
> directed Internet users to a clandestine government server, to stage
> armed raids of homes in Pennsylvania, New York, and Nevada last year.
> The supposed video files actually were gibberish and contained no
> illegal images.
>
> A CNET News.com review of legal documents shows that courts have
> approved of this technique, even though it raises questions about
> entrapment, the problems of identifying who's using an open wireless
> connection--and whether anyone who clicks on a FBI link that contains
> no child pornography should be automatically subject to a dawn raid
> by federal police.
>
> [...]
>
> Civil libertarians warn that anyone who clicks on a hyperlink
> advertising something illegal--perhaps found while Web browsing or
> received through e-mail--could face the same fate.
>
> When asked what would stop the FBI from expanding its hyperlink
> sting operation, Harvey Silverglate, a longtime criminal defense
> lawyer in Cambridge, Mass. and author of a forthcoming book on the
> Justice Department, replied: "Because the courts have been so
> narrow in their definition of 'entrapment,' and so expansive in
> their definition of 'probable cause,' there is nothing to stop the
> Feds from acting as you posit."
>
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> Dozens arrested in child porn sting
> Tom Allard
> June 5, 2008
>
>
> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/dozens-arrested-in-child-porn-st
> ing/2008/06/04/1212258936438.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2
>
> [...]
>
> Dubbed Operation Centurion, the investigation was triggered after
> a hacker infiltrated a respectable European website and inserted
> 99 degrading and explicit images of young girls from eastern Europe,
> the US and Paraguay.
>
> | The site - which cannot be named for legal reasons - was besieged
> | by an incredible 12 million hits in just 76 hours after word got
> | around online pedophile networks that the images were available
> | and the website's address was circulated.
>
> Almost 150,000 different computer users from 170 countries accessed
> the otherwise obscure website, including Australians using 2883
> computer IP addresses. Of those, 1513 had downloaded one or more
> images in the 76-hour period.
>
> Police were able to match IP addresses to locations. Some were public
> computers in places such as libraries, some were duplicates, but many
> could be traced to homes.
>
> Those arrested have ranged in age from 19 to 81 and included
> individuals with a known history of child abuse, and others with
> unblemished backgrounds.
>
> [...]
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>
> Internet sting identifies 1,500 suspected child pornographers
> September 30, 1997
> Web posted at: 9:47 a.m. EDT (1347 GMT)
>
> NEW YORK (CNN) -- A "cybersting" operation has identified more than
> 1,500 suspected child pornographers trading pictures of minors or
> soliciting child sex over the Internet, New York Attorney General
> Dennis Vacco said.
>
> The 18-month "Operation Rip Cord" already has led to more than 120
> arrests in the United States, Germany and the United Kingdom and
> the prosecution of 31 people throughout the United States.
>
> Investigators were so disgusted by the material coming across their
> screens that they once ripped a computer plug from the wall, giving
> the sting its name.
>
> [...]
>
> http://www.cnn.com/US/9709/30/cybersting/
>
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> These are just three examples chosen from news reports on the net; there
> are many, many others.
>
> The decision as to whether to follow links posted on a newsgroup such as
> this one is an individual one--every person must make that determination
> for themselves.
>
> My position is that it is far, far safer _not_ to follow any such links.
>
> As far as the assumption that any particular poster is a cop, personally,
> I tend towards the assumption that _everyone_ is a cop, and govern myself
> accordingly -- it's served me well for over 14 years.
>
>
> > Doc
> > NP-f31
>
> Baal <Baal@Usenet.org>
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> Retired Lecturer, Encryption and Data Security, Pedo U, Usenet Campus
> - --
>
> "Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?" -- "Who will watch the Watchmen?"
> -- Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347. circa 128 AD
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