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Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Annual Bob&Carole Look-a-like Contest!
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:36:58 -0800 (PST), Kate_G <kate3457@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:20:05 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
>>
>> <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 31, 9:47 am, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Dec 31, 12:29 am, Baal <B...@nym.panta-rhei.eu.org> wrote:
>>
>> >http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/a/l/Scott-A-
>> >Salberg/index.html
>>
>> >> What is it with the pedophiles and gay boys? They believe all of
>> >> God in them.
>>
>> >pedo activist. He's noted in the wikisposure projects website.
>>
>> The bo0b? Put the fear of God into someone?
>
>He must have. You see him in everyone that denounces you.
>The pedo's and the gay boys have accused:
>
>1. myself
>2. James riske
>3. Brandon
Brandon has already apologized for any accusations he made against me
and credits me and one other with making him reconsider his previous
belief that all pedophiles are child-molesters.
>4. Psycho
The Psyko -- and you really ought to bother to take the time to learn
his name properly -- support me and my agenda to prevent pedophiles
from becoming child-molesters. Again, you really should do your
homework before you make statements that show you for a half-ass
bigot.
>5. Anybody else that happens by and doesn't agree with your dirty
>lives.
Plenty of people have come here and tried the same shit that you do.
None of them stay. Where is your precious bo0b & Riske now? They both
promised to run me out of here -- well I'm still here, but no one has
enough courage to admit that they are the bo0b and Riske has likewise
gone walkabout. I was a part of this newsgroup long before they showed
their closed little minds, and I am still here now that they have
gone.
And a goodly number of those who come here get quite a surprise. They
expect to see people making horrible boasts or passing on secrets
about how to fool kids -- and they find a group of people dedicated to
eradicating sexual abuse of children; a group of people dedicated to
learning to live with their feelings without crossing the line and
harming children. The difference is that most of them have the
intelligence to understand what I have to say -- the way that Brandon
finally got it; the way that the Psyko got it practically from my
first conversation with him; the way friendly face asked me if I would
cross-post my messages to alt.support.incest because she felt that my
messages about what it truly means to care for a child needed to be
repeated there
They get a surprise when they see my messages about how to report
suspected child pornography or suspected child abuse. They get a
surprise when they see how much I can tell them about how the
government defines abuse and the type of information that they need to
have to make a report to their local Social Services. They get a
surprise when I tell them it's not their job to decide whether there
is abuse or not -- that they need to leave such determinations to the
professionals who are trained to make those decisions and just report
what they suspect and what they already know. They get surprised when
I tell them how their interference in a case may mean that a child
doesn't get the help he or she needs because instead of reporting it,
they start asking questions and give the abusers a chance to hide and
make excuses.
>
>> You people need to get
>> real.
>
>Maybe YOU do creep. b&c are known all over usenet as anti pedophile
>activists
>You on the other hand don't have such a good reputation.
I have an excellent reputation among people bother to read what I post
rather than take the words of idiots who don't know what they're
talking about. I'm not concerned with people who come here making
assumptions based on their own bigoted notions -- only with people who
actually have the intelligence to listen and understand.
As for the bo0b's reputation -- he is known well by the name I gave
him: the bo0b. He is well-known for attacking anyone different from
his own pathetic little self. He's attacked African-Americans,
Australians, atheists, Muslims, Jews, Mexicans and other Latinos,
Asians (whom he referred to as "gooks" and "bucks" and "does"), gays,
women (there aren't many that he hasn't eventually gotten around to
calling "cunt" the moment they disagreed with his bigotry or refused
to support his attacks on people in other groups); Oh, let's see, he's
referred to South American, African and some Asian countries as
"third-world toilets." For someone who claimed to be a good Christian
boy, he sure did hate a lot of people! And, my God, could he tell
lies! He was even better at lying than you are -- because your lies
are based on your own ignorant assumptions despite the fact that you
have no proof to back them up -- he didn't bother with limiting his
lies to things he might have actually believed. And he didn't really
care if we caught him in a lie, because his only true purpose for
posting it was to stir up shit anyway. As if he really cared enough
about anything but his own ability to cause trouble and create flame
wars! That is the bo0b's legacy. Over 200000 posts whose only purpose
was to cause trouble.
>> The day the bo0b stopped posting half of Usenet lost its
>> whipping boy. The Bo0b was just too STOOpid to know that he fooled no
>> one except a few kiss-ups like Brandon.
>
>And organizations like PJ/ wikisposure project
>
> Anyone with any intelligence
>> and integrity turned their backs on him in short order -- the same way
>> that MaxGrl
>
>No cites?
>Remember, we do not take you word.
Look it up -- either you can figure out how to Google or you can take
my word for it -- I don't particularly care which. Or is it that you
can't spell easy words like MaxGrl?
>did and the same way that a certain un-named malicious
>> hacker here desired to distance himself from the bo0b in any of his
>> other harassment activities while only accepting his help when it just
>> happened to coincide with his own agenda. Does seem strange, don't it
>> all you so-called anti-speeds? That one of your own would rather throw
>> his lot in with MY AGENDA than be associated with some of you? But
>> then, even malicious hackers have more integrity than many of you
>> close-minded bigots.
>>
>> If you see people accusing new idiots of being the bo0b, the reasons
>> are simple enough -- when you start with the level of stupidity that
>> many of you exhibit, you only serve to remind people of the bo0b; and
>> many people miss him because he was such an easy target! I personally
>> stopped communicating with him because it just wasn't a challenge
>> anymore.
>
>Sure! He must have had you backed into a corner like i have
>gay boy Emerson Wainwright and his sidekick Red Dog.
Oh yeah, you've really got them running now! I haven't seen them post
so much since the last time the bo0b was around! If you've got them so
scared, then why the hell are they still here? Or is logic beyond your
capability to understand?
The bo0b swore he would drive me off Usenet. We see which of us is
still here and which of us is not, don't we?
>I've read up on b&c. They reported pedophile Frank McCoy and
>he was arrested. Countless yahoo and google groups were
>reported and deleted. He's won awards and is recognized
>by the wikisposure project. That's more than YOU can say.
And how many times did he report Frank before Frank was arrested?
Frank's page was available on the WWW for years while the bo0b
incompetently reported to whomever he claimed to be reporting it to --
but nothing happened. That's efficiency for you! Frank's stories have
been posted to Usenet groups since the mid 90's -- it only took the
bo0b a decade and a half to get something done about it. And even then
why should we believe it was he who finally got something done?
Certainly the bo0b won awards -- he was the hands-down winner of
Usenet k00k of the year several years running. And, for the record,
I'm recognized by the wikisposure project -- they gave me every bit as
much space in their pages that they gave the bo0b, despite the fact
that they bothered to mention anything essential about what
philosophies either of us espouse.
As to all the groups that he got deleted, can you name 1? Out of all
that you claim he did, can you name a single group that was deleted as
a result of HIS report? Interestingly enough, despite his many boasts,
neither could he.
> After all, there's no use arguing with a fool -- after a
>> while no one can tell one from the other!
>
>I would love to see Bob tear into you creep.
>You wouldn't stand a chance.
As I said, I was here long before the bo0b ever raised his ugly cursor
and began to type to Usenet. He swore he would drive me off Usenet --
specifically swore that he would drive me away from this group. As the
song says, "Well, I'm still here, but now he's toast."
Not stand a chance? Lady, he never stood a chance.
>> And the bo0b was clearly both a fool and an idiot. Or have you
>> forgotten some of the more ridiculous posts he made?
>
>I wasn't here, remember?
>Attention Deficit Disorder?
As I have suggested, it's really pathetic that you should come in here
and take sides and start making all kinds of assumptions without doing
your homework.
>> "Black whore microwaves baby..another feeds baby Vodka"
>> "IT'S OK TO KILL GAYS - BRITISH IMAM"
>> "They're sweating in the Taco Motherland............"
>> "Indian men don't measure up"
>> "atheists are liars...like we didn't already know..."
>> "My Penis is the cause of my Alcoholism"
>> "Rag heads, likes and shines"
>> "A devil food is turning our kids into homosexuals"
>> "Muhammad the filthy pedophile"
>> "Wetback pedophile arrested"
>
>Listing the subject lines doesn't reveal the contents of the threads.
Let's see, the first was 2 news clippings, the former about a mother
who put her baby in the microwave, the latter about a woman who had
put vodka in her baby's bottle; the bo0b posted it to
soc.culture.african.american & alt.non.racism -- interestingly enough,
neither article referred to the race of the women or children
involved, that was the bo0b's little contribution.
His "Indian men don't measure up" was an article stating that the
average penis size for men in India was smaller than the world
average, an article he posted in soc.culture.indian
You can look the rest up yourself. I've read them; hell, I was around
when he posted and cross-posted them all over Usenet. You can probably
find many of them cross-posted in this group -- not that I expect you
to actually do it since you already claim to know all you need to
know.
>>
>> and the classic:
>>
>> From: "boundaries" <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com>
>> Newsgroups: recd.food.cooking
>> Subject: Advice on Indian cooking needed
>> Date: 18 Jan 2007 14:04:55 -0800
>> Message-ID: <1169157895.919984.32...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
>>
>> At what temperature should Indians be cooked?
>>
>> Pure idiocy & bigotry. No wonder you small-minded idiots admire him so
>> much!
>
>A joke to be sure. I got a laugh out of it!
> Don't you gay molesters have a sense of humor?
No doubt you'd think so. If it were an isolated incident, I might
agree with you -- but when you put it together with his questions
about what temperatures the ovens at concentration camps were set at
and all of his other bullshit, you see it for what it truly is -- a
campaign of hate. Don't get me wrong, I doubt the bo0b really gave a
fig one way or the other, he just liked to piss people off and get
them yelling and flaming.
> I like to poke a little fun at the gay boys myself. They aren't much
>of a challenge {just like you} but what the hell.
>
>
>Now THIS isn't funny. It was pointed out to me in the old posts:
>
>"I am a pedophile -- someone who is sexually attracted to children; I
>won't quibble about pre-adolescent or post-adolescent because I like
>them all. That does not make me a threat to children"--4s00th
>
>"Yes, I've thought about giving little boys blow jobs, and the
>fantasies have been very thrilling and exciting to me"--4s00th
>
>Care to explain this creep?
Certainly I can explain it -- it's the truth. What would you expect me
to fantasize about? Doing crossword puzzles in Yiddish?
What idiots like you fail to understand is that having an attraction
to someone doesn't make me a danger to them in the same way that many
men who find Anna Kournikova attractive are not a danger to her. You
idiots assume that just because I want to do something, I have no
choice but to do it, and that's just plain bullshit. How many men
actually get a chance to have sex with the women they might fantasize
about? How many of them would shy away from it rather than actually
trying it IF THEY HAD THE CHANCE?
Heterosexual men see women everyday that they would like to have sex
with -- and most of them do nothing about it, most of them never even
find out if it's possible to do so. If people went around fucking or
raping anything and anyone they might be attracted to, nothing would
ever get done except a lot of fucking. The only difference between me
and those men is that I'm not attracted to the same kind of thing that
they are -- but they very same rules apply to me as do them: nobody
gets everything they want, and nobody gets to do everything that they
want to do!
And here's a big difference -- I understand the harm that I could
cause to a child if I allowed myself to do some of the things that I
fantasize about. Whereas they might be able to enter into a mutually
acceptable relationship with the objects of their desire, I cannot
unless I'm willing to harm someone else, and I am not.
And I stay way from kids by my own choice. Not because I'm afraid of
what I might do to them, but because it hurts too much to know that
they cannot reciprocate the feelings I have. Certainly, the kids I've
worked with in the past loved me. But none of them would have wanted
to have sex with me -- that's not the way that they loved me. And that
hurts deep inside. It's like having your heart ripped out over and
over and over again. Eventually you either stop doing it or you stop
caring and do what you want. I chose to stop doing it.
I have friends who are actually more concerned about what I would do
to myself if I thought I had harmed a child than that I would actually
do anything that would hurt a child. They know I would never force a
child to do anything like that -- but they fear that a child would get
close enough to me that I could convince myself that I've gone farther
than I should have and then hurt myself. These are the people who
really know me. And no, I don't expect you to take my word, I don't
even care so much what you believe or think -- I care what others who
read these words will believe and think. I care that there are those
who will read my words and understand how horrible it would be to harm
a child, how horrible it would be to use a child for your own selfish
desires out of some claim of love! What kind of love could it be if
you end up hurting the one you claim you love? That's not love, that's
a lie, an excuse, a rationalization to tell yourself so that you can
do what you want to do even though you know it's wrong.
>Or better yet explain why you think you should be allowed
>to have contact with children after making those statements.
>
>I suspect you'll use the old pedo speak dodge and do something
>dumb like accuse me of being b&c.
I don't dodge. I answer. I answer frankly, even if it hurts me. And I
won't take anyone else's bullshit when they're making excuses either.
But I don't need to accuse you of anything, do I? How many times do I
have to read the exact same words repeated from different people to
know when something smells like a nasty sock-puppet. And it sure is
funny that you dug up the one quote that the bo0b loved to repeat so
much when you can't even find a single of the posts I've pointed out
to you without a citation and message number or even learn how the
Psyko spells his name!
Tell me, can you waddle like a duck, too?
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