In article <20081018020909.B82C5C2E9B@panta-rhei.eu.org>, The Lookout
<Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
> +Grant <+Grant@grant.grant> wrote:
> >In article <20081017223648.88F5CC2DFD@panta-rhei.eu.org>, The
> >Lookout
> ><Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
> >
> >> +Grant <+Grant@grant.grant> wrote:
> >> >In article <3c2971c8fe45334620fb4f2a0c42a151@pseudo.borked.net>,
> >> >Borked
> >> >Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 15-Oct-2008, NP-f31 <dudewiththe(REMOVE)hair@hushmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > PS- Goodbye (again) lookin *PLONK*
> >> >>
> >> >> ROTFLMAO!
> >> >>
> >> >> Doc, you lost all credibility the night you posted about your
> >> >> sermon on the stairwell, that night you delivered the pizza.
> >> >>
> >> >> You ain't never recovered from *THAT* crap and you just
> >> >> never, ever will, no matter how many "n00bies" you manage
> >> >> to think up in order to prop you up.
> >> >>
> >> >> Incidentally, *this* mikey seems more childlike than the
> >> >> last mikey you thought up. In fact, he's the spittin' image
> >> >> of that "young man" who often posts naughty little pics to
> >> >> try and bring Lookin' down. And *THAT* is something neither
> >> >> you and all of your st00pid pen names put together will
> >> >> ever manage.
> >> >>
> >> >> Your a fake, Doc. You always have been and always will be.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just ask Archie.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Why do you care?
> >> >Everybody is a fake here because we exist in the groups just as
> >words
> >> >on a screen and not real people but you are more fake than most
> >of us
> >> >because you don't even use a individual nic or sign your posts
> >with
> >> >some name. A fake calling a lesser fake a fake is funny. Don't
> >you
> >> >think so?
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Grant
> >>
> >> Hi Grant,
> >>
> >> You know...I'm really starting to regret posting that information
> >> on remailers. I would have NEVER typed the first word had I known
> >> ahead of time that it would be abused and used to create an
> >asinine
> >> anonymous troll. Is it too late to ask for a retraction? :(
> >
> >I didn't suggest remailer info be a part of the FAQ when I started
> >the
> >project but because the info exists not including it could look some
> >kind of suspicious like we didn't want BLs to be as secure as they
> >could be.
> >
> >This troll isn't your fault any which way. He used remailers before
> >you
> >posted about it. Its *not* your fault! Please don't be sorry about
> >sharing anything.
>
> I do realize that knowledge is only a tool and it's how the person
> chooses to use the tool which makes it good or bad. That still does
> not mean that you want to see someone bash in another person's skull
> with the hammer that you just handed to them.
But you didn't hand it. He already knew it. In fact Y Not tried to help
him with his "References: " header problem a long time ago.
If the remailer posters say they are not the same and they are not that
troll does it really matter? I don't think so! Not until they want to
post with an individual identity.
> >> If we can't use the information in the Fort FAQ to be
> >constructive,
> >> there will be NO hope of rebuilding the Fort. It's bad enough
> >when
> >> we have to deal with trolls who are outsiders, but when it's one
> >> of our own...it's unforgivable. It's obvious that this anonymous
> >> troll doesn't care at all about the Fort. He only appears to be
> >> interested in his own amusement, no matter how destructive it is.
> >> What's more fake than pretending to care about this community we
> >> call "The Fort" and then acting as he has?
> >
> >I know. Its too bad there are some BLs who want to act more like
> >trolls
> >than the trolls do. I guess people who feel bad about themselves and
> >angry about what society thinks about them (who can blame BLs for
> >that?) want to take it out in the only safe place they can with
> >their
> >fellows who really know how they feel. Maybe this is the only way
> >they
> >think they have any power over their life and other peoples lives.
> >Its
> >sad they do this to try to make themselves feel better by trying to
> >make their own people feel worse. Its more sad it doesn't work for
> >them
> >or they wouldn't have to keep trying.
> >
> >Destruction is easier than building. I think some people are jealous
> >of
> >people who can and want to create better things because they think
> >they
> >can't do it but they really can if they try. I think they are afraid
> >to
> >try. They don't have to be.
> >
> >I replied to this troll to see if he would tell us about why he does
> >his trolling. I think he shows us he doesn't know, while at the same
> >time he accuses other people who have said why they post of having
> >"ulterior motives" but doesn't say what he thinks they are. People
> >who
> >don't want themselves to know why they do bad things always try to
> >blame other people for it and lie to cover that up. They never
> >answer
> >questions about why they do it and what they are really trying to do
> >because they know it doesn't make rational sense.
> >Do you think its possible he is a regular BL poster who doesn't want
> >us
> >to know about that and thats why he uses remailers just for his
> >trolling? So he can dis anybody he wants to including his friends?
> >Just
> >a thought because I think it looks like it could be true.
>
> I do think that it's a regular because of the content in some of
> his posts. I also believe he thinks that he's doing the right thing
> even though he's being trollish and destructive in his attempts. The
> use of the remailers creates plausible deniability which makes him
> feel that he can use any means to an end.
Looks like a Republican. LOL
I disagree. I think you are being too generous. I can't see how
attacking *you* could be the "right thing" in any way shape or form.
Its like attacking Tommy or Kidhacker. You are as much the center of
the fort as they are.
I think the troll is lost in his own world of unbridled antagonism and
is so terribly frustrated he is not winning over rational people to his
personal agenda hes striking out at too many targets and making himself
look like a silly impotent fool. Tactical mistakes.
Example is the more names he adds to his hit list the more the omitted
names tell us something I think he wouldn't want us to know.
> >>
> >
> >Please keep being a part of the fort. We need good and very smart
> >people like you! If you can't be really active please post once in a
> >while so we know you are still with us and caring.
> >
> >--
> >Grant
>
> I do peek in from time to time, but I have very little free time to
> become an active poster again. I wouldn't have even known about the
> FAQ project had I not recently heard about it from a friend. I do
> still care about the Fort and the people which is why I don't like
> seeing the remailer network used for abuse. There have been many
> remailers over the years that have shut down because the operators
> got tired of the abuse complaints. What would happen if no one
> wanted to operate a remailer because abuse and trolling became a
> problem? There goes a wonderful tool.
LIke the frog remailer. Y Not warned Froggy about it and got laughed at
but it did close down because of complaints about trolls using it.
> Take care,
> The Lookout
>
Something the troll mentioned.
I liked Docs pizza stories.
Are we supposed to take all the stories in the Bible literally? I don't
think so. I think some of them were written for us to learn important
lessons from not just for retelling history.
I don't know if Docs pizza stories are true either (no bona fides in
usenet) but thats not important. Whats real is the message in the
stories and what we can learn from them. This is for all posts and all
posters and really for Docs pizza stories. There is something to learn
good or bad from everything in the fort no matter what we think of the
poster.
Docs stories are important because they are about kids from somebody
who has raised his own kids. There are very few actual BL fathers here.
We should learn all we can from them if we want to understand the
children we are attracted to and know how precious they *really* are in
a safe way. I think Doc should repost his stories and post new ones
even if he has to make some of them up to show us what he thinks we
should know about real life boys.
I think I'm finished (learned what I wanted) with the remailer troll
now. Before Doc tells me to stop feeding the trolls again! LOL
I think that will upset the troll more than anything else I could do
and thats not really a bad thing. ROTFLMAO
--
Grant
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