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From: +Grant <+Grant@grant.grant>
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Subject: Re: To Plus-Grant on a significantly insignificant linguistic curiosity
Date: 13 Oct 2008 20:14:02 -0500
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In article <0001HW.C5190E0D00CB223BB01AD9AF@news.newscene.com>,
Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:28:26 -0700, Mephistopheles wrote
> (in article <a976f45dvr787fhs16ip9omd76p2ln0d06@4ax.com>):
>
> > About two years back, before he foreclosed on his Grand Mission here,
> > I drew y not's attention to what to me was his irritatingly persistent
> > confusion over two simple words: namely, LOOSE, & LOSE.
> >
> > "Loose" = not firmly or tightly fixed. ( a loose screw, a loose tooth)
> > "Lose" = to mislay, be deprived of ( to lose a tooth is worse than a
> > loose one)
> >
> > A loose cannon can be annoyingly unpredictable, but to lose a cannon
> > far worse, especially if it finishes up in the hands of the Taliban.
> > If you were reporting back on the War situation from the Front it's
> > important to get these distinctions right.
> >
> > He graciously thanked me for pointing it out, but sadly I never saw
> > any firm purpose of amendment. He continued in the error of his ways.
> > And so time passed, & the children who were children grew up & bought
> > motor cars & the leaves dropped from their parent branches & the snows
> > fell in their flocculent exuberance. All seemed well with the world.
> > And Mephi busy as always with good deeds everywhere forgot all about
> > it....till today.
> >
> > In the thread "Who is this man?" you wrote(my Capitals):-
> >
> > " to offend you and the rest of the wolfpack and
> > LOOSE you as a useless friend is more like it."
> >
> > (from your penultimate post, 3rd interpolation)
> >
> > So, on a whimsy, I re-read (oh, I am a glutton for punishment) the 2nd
> > post in the same thread by your closet companion, who curiously
> > slipped up on that fugitive word:-
> >
> > "Trolls never win arguments in the Fort..... They LOOSE just in acting
> > like trolls, whatever the merits of their arguments."
> > (from his penultimate paragraph)
> >
> > Now, mutatis mutandis, & to quote Oscar Wilde, "To lose one parent may
> > be regarded as a misfortune, but to lose both looks like
> > carelessness".....but 3 In such close proximity, & in the same
> > thread.... Am I being too subtle here?
> >
> > Such confusion may, of course, be a widespread & legitimate
> > Americanism. Or, as the Roman Pataculus observed:- "Emulation is the
> > spur of wit, & sometimes envy, sometimes admiration, quickens our
> > endeavours". In other words, friends idiosyncracies brush off against
> > each other.........or......Shades of Gemstone?
> >
> > No, Mephi, no!
> >
> > Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
> > The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
> > Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
> > The frumious Bandersnatch
> >
> > Well, as you can see, I am sorely discombobulated by it all, & apply
> > to you for help in the hope that you can bring my research to a more
> > satisfying & meaningful conclusion.
> >
> > Mephi
> >
> >
>
> There are other malaprops. They are like a signature.
No, a signature is like a signature. LOL
> That and the totally lame 'sense of humor' and the pontification and the
> disdain he cannot help but show. It is an unmistakable package. He is
> virtually instantly recognizable and if there is even a scintilla of doubt,
> one can push him into a full display with ease. He is nothing if not
> predictable.
You never predict him so why do you lie about it?
Why do you need to "push" people? Why do you need to be a bully for
your enjoyment?
> Interestingly as I have mentioned before we see little of that package in
> other (e.g. Mac) groups. Although the lame sense of humor occasionally shows
> itself.
Who is "we"? You grow another head? LOL
I don't know much about humor but I like his better than yours.
> There is no doubt though. Y-Not, Grant, Awake, High, Referee, Gemstone, and
> who knows how many other personages are one and the same entity.
There is always doubt. More so here where nothing like that can be
proved. Smart wise careful humble people know this so you are telling
people you are none of those things.
> As to Doc's post, I believe, if he gives it some thought, he'll find that it
> is self-contradictory. Either those folks are different or they are the same
> and if they are the same and one treats them as though they are different
> that borders on a kind of delusional thinking.
Whats it to *you* how he treats people if he isn't attacking? Why do
you need him to be as insane as you are? Why do you need him to act
like a troll like you do and harass people?
You are the most "self-contradictory" poster I know. Strange you find
it in others where it isn't but never see it in your own posts. Isn't
that real "delusional thinking"?
People can write anyway they choose. If he is as many people you think
he is, how many posters is he you don't know about?
I think the similarities you see are a tiny bit intentional in the
posters and a little more by accident but mostly in your fanatic
"delusional thinking". You never let yourself things that show you are
wrong. You do this with everything not just with Y Not issue. There are
much more significant differences than there are similarities and some
similarities I see you never mentioned. I see similarities to Y Not in
lots of posters like some of what Victor posted which Castrated Pig
spotted but you didn't.
Your behavior makes you more than just a liar. Your only *real*
criteria for "thinking" a poster is Y Not is if he shows he likes Y Not
better than you do. I'll take Mephi for example. He attacks people for
being Y Not when they agree with him but treats them nice as a
different poster when they disagree with a "Y Not" poster and then back
again. He did that to me. It's just an attack tactic Doc invented you
convinced yourself is real. That is funny and insane at the same time!
You made yourself believe your own demonizing lies!
The wolfpack attacked me for being Y Not at my first very short post
here when I came back. That was before there could possibly be any
similarities in posts. You did the same for all the posters you accused
of being him. This kills your argument right there. Romeo never had
anything similar to Y Not in his posts. Do you still "think" he is Y
Not"? Another kill. How many time zones do you think Y Not lives in?
> In any case, even if Y-Not has this assemblage of mannequins all talking to
> one another, that does not oblige anyone else to take leave of his or her
> senses and treat them as anything other than one and the same person. It is
> as cosmos showed us, just a closet full of different faces to put onto the
> same body.
How many personas does anther Mac poster you know about have? You don't
give a puck about his using so many different nics (over 30 in the
years hes posted) or that people treat them as different people. You
don't call any of that "delusional thinking". You don't harass him
either. This kills any reason you have for harassing Y Not and people
you have to think are him. You harass Y Not and people you need to
think are him because you personally dislike him and no other reason.
Why do you need to be like a Troll? I capped it so I'm him? what about
all the times I didn't? This is how false your logic is. Why do you
*need* to disrupt the fort with your negative "delusional thinking" so
you can have your insane idea of fun?
The proof of what you are is easy to see. You never answer questions
about *why* you need to do all this. The wolfpack never does. The
people you think are Y Not do answer questions because they have no
ulterior insane destructive motives to hide like you do.
> Perhaps we may find that the inestimable Y-Not in addition to the long, long,
> long list of his achievements has also mastered the art of ventriloquism.
> Ventriloquists are not unlike psychologists, you know.
>
Because they have dummies for patients? LOL
I think its sad and stupid what you just wrote. Insane too.
Sad because you just accused your friend Doc of being Y Nots
ventriloquists dummy because he doesn't completely agree with you and
what you do. Its a tactic Doc used before too. First there is the
"disciple" and then it escalates to "sock puppet" but you skipped both
of them and went to "ventriloquists dummy". What are you going call him
next if Doc doesn't go back to agreeing with everything you do? Accuse
him of being Y Not? Thats the next on the list.
Wouldn't that really be ironic!
Stupid to post that kind of comment when you didn't need to.
Insane that you think people wouldn't know what you really meant.
Don't try to backpedal from this one. You could break your mental
ankles!
Strange isn't it the people who need psychological help the most are
the ones who put them down the most?
Doc made one good point. It doesn't make any difference if somebody
posts with more then one name and persona like some posters are known
to do "especially" if they post to help and not hurt like you like to
hurt. The reality is there are posts. They have words. Thats what
matters not who we think they came from. Reputations are nothing here
where there are no bona fides. Smart sane people know they can be wrong
but you think you are always right even when there is no evidence to
back you up. That's not smart or sane. All you do with posts like this
is reenforce peoples opinions about you and this situation. The
wolfpack thats left will rubberstanp anything you post. Your harassment
victims and the other rational people here will still think you are
still insanely stuck on your useless stupid vendetta that makes people
not want to post here. That must be your goal because you are still
doing it.
There is nothing you have ever written that justifies your attacks on Y
Not and people you think are him. This means you are insane or you are
trolling for selfish destructive "fun" you said you were or you do it
for a reason you won't tell us. If that is so I can see just one reason
judging by the effects anybody can see here. You want the fort to end
and good caring people stop posting here so the fort will belong just
to the wolfpack because thats whats happened.
--
Grant
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