Frank McCoy <mccoyf@millcomm.com> wrote:
> In alt.support.girl-lovers "Dr.Reality"
> <james_riske@nothingwillhappen_hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Frank McCoy wrote:
> >> In alt.support.girl-lovers Shagrat <dnsaundersSHAGRAT@sympatico.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Dr.Reality" <james_riske@nothingwillhappen_hotmail.com> wrote in
> >>>news:ctpl7k$2gr$0@pita.alt.net:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Do I think Leann was sexually attractive at age 13? Of course
> >>>>not, that is sick, ....
> >>>
> >>>Dr. Reality proves, once again, that HE lives in an alternate reality.
> >>
> >>
> >> He lives in a reality where everybody's age is stamped on their
> >> foreheads.
> >
> >No pedo, the "reality" of the matter is that you claimed 99.9% of the
> >population is made up of pedophiles.
> >You utterly failed to back that claim with any real evidence, the only
> >thing you submitted were your own worthless pedophile opinions, nothing
> >substantial whatsoever.
> >
> NOT "opinions".
> Every one of the individual statements I made is a FACT.
>
> FACT:
> :>A. A "pedophile" is a person who finds "children"
> :> sexually attractive.
>
> Or do you deny that? That's almost an exact quote from you.
> Or are you going to argue with your own definition?
>
> FACT:
> :>B. By *law*, a "child" is a person under the *legal*
> :> "Age Of Consent".
>
> Or do you count some other law?
> Any other *laws* regarding what a "child" is, versus when they become
> an "adult" has the age much older; thus making my points below even
> more absolute.
>
> FACT:
> :>C. In a large part of the country, the AOC is 18;
> :> But let's be generous: A person under 15 is
> :> "jailbait", or a "child" by definition of the
> :> LAW in pretty much ALL of the country.
>
> Do you deny this?
> I could quote you the exact Ages-Of-Consent for every state in the
> country, if you wish by looking it up on the web. I don't know of
> *any* states these days where they have over 16 as the AOC, though in
> years past, SOME states had AOC laws as low as 12 ... But no more. If
> they did, then in THOSE particular states only, then not everybody
> would be defined as a pedophile. In most of the rest of the country,
> yes.
>
> FACT:
> :>D. Therefore, *ANY* person who sees a boy or girl
> :> under the age of 15 as sexually attractive,
> :> *Is by the above definition a pedophile!*
>
> That's what the law says. Argue with the law, not me.
> It's that law that I say is ridiculous. You say it's right.
> But that it *IS* the law, is indisputable fact.
>
> FACT:
> :>E. I defy anybody to look at the *woman* Leann Rimes
> :> Singing at the age of *13* to be sexually unattractive,
> :> and not be lying through their teeth when they say so.
> A picture of her at 15, still "jailbait" in about every state of the
> union. Anybody who finds her sexually attractive in that picture is a
> pedophile, by definition of law:
> http://www.images.leannfans.com/4images/data/media/182/evu6.jpg
> Leann again, at 15, at BMI country awards in Nashville:
> http://images.absolutenow.com/rp/RimesLeAnn355051324.jpg
> Leann, at 14, Country Music Awards, 1997:
> http://www.images.leannfans.com/4images/data/media/168/ama97r1.jpg
> Leann, at 13, Country Music Awards, 1996:
> http://www.images.leannfans.com/4images/data/media/169/cma961.jpg
> Same time, same age, same place, same year:
> http://www.images.leannfans.com/4images/data/media/169/cma962.jpg
> My wife, when she had her first kid at 27 didn't have half the body
> that Leann had at 13. Only shown pictures without identifying who was
> who or the ages of the people in them, I would imagine that over 95%
> of the men in the USA would pick Leann at 13 as being older, more a
> woman, and far more sexually attractive ... and my wife was FAR from
> ugly! Quite beautiful, in fact. I have some pictures of her in a
> swimsuit or a dress I designed that would make just about every real
> MAN on Earth drool and get a hard-on ... But still far less so than
> Leann at 13, would in a similar outfit, if nobody identified her as
> jailbait. Without being told, you'd never know. Girls that age
> shouldn't *HAVE* bodies like that ... But sometimes they do. The
> world and universe isn't always fair to the competition.
> :>QED.
>
> >Frank McCoy is a proven liar.
> Um ... Show me even *one* lie in *any* of the above statements, and
> I'll concede your point.
>
> Don't blame ME for accusing you of being a pedophile!
> Blame the *LAW* for *defining* you as one.
> See how ridiculous the law is?
>
> BTW: *I* am not all that big a fan of Leann; though my wife used to be
> when she was younger. She *did* sing "Blue" though, in a voice fit to
> make you weep. Incredible voice. Why she didn't win vocalist of the
> year for her first year, I cannot figure.
>
> All the above URLs were found by looking them up doing a google search
> and following the links. I suppose I could do the same thing for
> Traci Lords at 16 ... Still "jailbait" in a large portion of the
> country; and you're a pedophile by definition if you live in one of
> those states and think she was sexually attractive at that age.
> You're guilty of possessing "child pornography" if you still have one
> of the tapes she made before she got caught and her real age was
> discovered. And yes, anybody who saw her fucking and sucking in those
> pictures and happened to have the idea she might be even slightly
> sexually arousing, is also a pedophile.
>
> YOU know you aren't a pedophile. I know you're not.
> Pedophiles are "dirty old men" who want to have sex with prepubescent
> kids. REAL children, not teenagers who have been having real sex with
> their boyfriends and husbands for years (or like Traci Lords, with any
> man who would hold still long enough for her to seduce him).
> But the LAW says you are.
>
> <Sigh.>
> Yet you think I'm a pervert for wanting the law changed to something
> reasonable, where real women can decide for themselves who they want
> to fuck. Maybe Leann at 13 wasn't a "real woman" yet under either the
> law, or mentally even. But her body certainly was; and nobody should
> be called a pervert or pedophile for appreciating her beauty.
>
> Having sex with her, would be a different matter, if you knew how
> young she was. But I cannot see castigating a man who got seduced by
> a woman that physically mature and who believed her fake driver's
> license ... as has actually happened in the past. At thirteen, hell
> at TWELVE the "girl" looked far more mature than many women do at 21,
> fully old enough to vote and drink in any bar, let alone decide who
> she wanted to have sex with.
>
> But: Finding her even slightly "sexually attractive" at that age makes
> you a pedophile.
>
> That's the LAW. You're a pedophile, by definition of the law.
> Either put up with it, get over it, or change the law.
> "The law, sir, is an ass!"
"Pedophilia" is not a legal term, it is a psychological one. The law does
not define pedophiles and, regardless of what "James Riske" would like to
believe, it is NOT illegal to be a pedophile. The law defines "child
molester", "sex offender", etc., but not "pedophile". The law (at least so
far) has stayed out of people's desires. It only defines people by their
actions (at least so far).
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